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FOREST OWNERthe VOICE of 255,000 forest owners in New York- representing an ownership of 11 million acres

Vol. 11 December 1, 1973 No. 6Editorial Committee

L~oyd G. Strombeck,Dorothy 1rTertheimerDavid H. Hanaburgh

Merle lrJilson,Editor

Chairman ••••••• 57 Main St., Owego, N. Y. 13827,Helen VarianvTilliam Lubinec

•••••• 24 Louisa St., Binghamton, N. Y. 13904

Index of Major Articles

Articles

President's Message ................................ ., . 2

Minutes, 72nd Meeting Board of Directors ••••••••••••••••••••• 2

Minutes, Board of Directors, Oct. 20, 1973 •••••••••••..•••••• 4

1973 Fall Meeting--Sterling Forest and Bear Mountain Park •••• 7

Proposed Budget for Fiscal Year •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• 10

Suggestions for New Directors ••••••••••••••••.•.•.•••••.••••• 11

Annual Spring Meeting ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••.••••••• 11

Nominations for Heiberg Award •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• 11

New York Balsam Tour .•••••••••••••••••••••.•••.•.••• '"'.• • • .•• •• II

Eberley Letters •• G •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• 13

Letter from John Smigel •••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• 15

Items for Thought from Ed I100t ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• 16

Real Pr oper ty Tax Law Amendment ••.•••••••e ••••••• Q ••• _ •••• _ • • • • 18

PRESIDENT'S COLUMN - William Lubinec-------------------Page 2

Our annual Fall Meeting at Lake Sebago was a success. Director DaveHanaburgh did an outstanding job 'tvith the many arrangements and details. Wehad over 50 members and guests, including our newest" Mr. Frank H. McIntoshand his charming wife. Fhen a busy industrialist like Mr. Hc Irrtosh can attendand profit from the meeting by picking up valuable information garnered fromour many knowlegeable members and hopefully use it in managing his many thou-sands of acres of land and forest, it behooves some of our members who werenftthere to think about attending our future meetings.

voTe had a shor t 'Bn:,xdof Directors meeting prior to our Fall Meeting andaccomplished two important things. Tho Directors decided to delete ourdeliquent members vd' 'i "yho number at approximately 160. This is quite adrain on our treasury. The second and most important thing we did was to setup a trustee committee to accept and manage forest property for NYFOA. Thetrustees arc; John Stock, D2vid Hanaburgh, Allen Bratton, Emiel Palmer andAlfred Najer. The only tough hurdle we can see in our path now, is to beable to assure our grantors that we can manage the lands and woods that theywill deed to us in conformation of their wishes in perpetuity. TrTith theexcellent choice of individuals on this committee, Itm sure that they willcome up with the right answers,

I would. like to take this opportunity to wish each and everyone of youa Very Merry Christmas and a HapPW" and Very Prosperous New Year.

MINUTES of the 72nd MEETING - BOARD OF DIRECTORS - NYFOA22-September-i9i3,-Farm s:: Home-Center ,-Binghaton-;N.-y: -President v.Tm. Lubinec presided.Present: Lubinec, Strombeck, Hanaburgh, Parsons, Bratton, Tyler, Palmer,

RidingsMimutes of the 7lst meeting wor o read, corrected & approved.Treasurers Report: :1l>t;;64945 Balance. Dir Palmer was able to have the HiltonInn, Syracuse mcuting room fGe deleted at the last meeting and apparently forthe future.Committee Reports:Accreditation: Dir Hanaburgh explained that this committee concerns itselfwith the accreditation of logging contractors. He has had some discussionabout uncooperative loggers.Archivist: Dir Palmer said Dir Koon has begun working this job.Budget & Finance: Dir Ridings presented a tentative budget for the 1973-4 __ ~.-:fiscal year.

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Editorial: Dir Strombeck said a new masthead is in the works for F. O.Fall Meeting: Dir Hanaburgh has only a few reservations so far.Heiberg Memorial Award: Dir Bratton said he will soon invite nominations.

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Land Acquisition for IriFOA: Dir Bratton said he determined from our By-Lawsthat NYFOA has tho right to own real estate.

Natural Resources, Land Use & Planning: Pres. liubinec appointed Dir KenParsons as chairman. This is a temporary committee.

Nominating Committee:next fiscal year soon.Lubinoc. (Mark & Dave

Dir "Ridings 1-Jillseek nominations for directors forTwo names wcr c suggested at this time by Pres.

Cook)

Printing & Mailing: In absence of Dir Campbell, Dir Palmer reported thatthe membership applications cost 13200 for 2,000 copies.Spring Meeting: Dir Strombeck will soon meet with his committee comprisedof Pros. Lubinec appinted comm, mbrs: Hertheimer, Palmer, Mark & Ridings.

Timber Harv esting & liarketing: Pr es , Lubinec appointed Har old Tyler chair-man. Dir Tyler will attempt to come up with some sample timber contracts orclauses with which to construct a custom contract from the sellers point ofview.

Trespass & Condemnation: Dir Hanaburgh said he will check with NYS on pro-gress of condemnation studies.

Old Business:

A letter was sent on behalf of NYFOA to Di.r Ford's wido1-T.Letter sent to American "\ITildlifeFederation, updating directory.

New Business:

Dir Strombeck moved NYFOA appropriate the $76 youth oxpenses as itemizedfor youth participation in the Fall r-ieeting '73 and that this be not .charged against the F r-1 but rather an educational category of expenditures.Passed.

A motion was made by Dir Palmer and amended by Dir Parsons that the F 0budget for this fiscal year be a maximum of $1500 and was passed.

It was agreed that a copy of the director's meeting minutes bo sent eachdirector.

Dir Tyler suggested we have a minimum of 1article per year in the NYSConservationist magaZine.Dir Palmer said a woods walk will bo held 6 Oct. Camden a repeat of lastyear's on harv~sting practices to see how 1year has affected it.

It was agreed that our membership secretary is to have copies of all printedforms prepared by NTIDA.. This to centralize their storage and provide forready availability.

Dir Ridings moved that Dir Steinfeld's resignation from the board beaccepted with regret and the hepo that sometime in tho future he may bewilling and able to serve again.

Pros. Lubinec appointed l'lrS Dean Betts (subject' to her acceptance) an

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architect to fill the Steinfeld vacancy (expiration of term t74).

It was decided thnt committee chairme& should submit a written report tothe prosident covering their activities etc. prior to each board ofdi.r-ect.ors meeting, regardless of whether they plan to attend such meeting.The report should be sent be it positive or negative and should considerrecommendations or policy decisions rather than the finer details sincethese occupy too much time at diroctors meetings. Dir Ridings to so informcommittee chairmen.

It was suggested that absent directors at board meetings be listed as wellas those in attendance. Those absent at this meeting: Barton, Cook, Koon,Sand, Steinfeld, Lennox, St,ck, irTertheimer, Campbell, Hansen, Kernan, IvIaag,Najer.

Next board meeting: Oct. 20, 1973 9:30 a.m., Sebago Cabin Site at HarrimanState Park, N. Y.

Submitted on behalf of Hr , L81vis Dullond by John Ridings.

Oct. 20, 1973 NYFOiI. Board of Directors met in the main lodge, SebagoGroup Camps, Harr-Iman State Park. Pres. Hm. Lubinec presided. Readings ofminutes dispensed 1vith since minutes of previous meeting Here mailed to alldirectors. Hinutes appr ovcd A.Sreceived by mail.

Treasurer, Emiol Palmer reported bA.lance in treasury 10/20/73 - $915.29.Certificates of deposit ~>3195.19. Total <:54110.48. Outstanding accounts due:Honorarium for membership secy n34.25.. Expenses for Fall meeting - not knownyet. Moved by Stromberg, sec. by Tyler & carried that I'r eas , report beapproved as read.

Dorothy vJertheimer - no report.

Archie Keen ••.If'L:,odsHalk Chadrman - stated Lcng term objectives - Arrange atleast 3 or 4 v,Tood:.:' vTa.lks in var-Ious parts of State. Publicize suitably,beth ,vithin the Ass,)co 8:::. more widely. Get firm commitments from participants.Make a Pr ocedur e b.iok Lr guidance of future committees. Short term objedives ••none. Progress - '\!>Talksscheduled for Enfield Park thru Bob Sands and Hardenproperty near Camden (Horb Eckelberg) were c~ncelled for lack of enrollees.The ,tTalk at v.filt)iJ. (Dr. Orra Phelps, host oas ) was a great success. \rTalk washeld on Sept. 30th.

Archie K,on, Chairman of Archives Commi.t t.oe reported that in August an inven-tory was taken of NYFOA.material housed in Moon Library. A copy of hisreport is attachod to tho minutes. Mr. Koon hopes to c011ect records &documents relating to Assoc. history. These will be ut.or ed in file drawer sassigned NYFOA.in Archive Room, Franklin Moon Hemorial Library, SUNY,College of Forestry, Syracuse. An inventory will bo maintained and any changesreported to NYFOAP::oco}.dent. Items are sought from members, Especiallywanted is pertinent l, c, rea from of'f'Lcer a and commi.t.tee chairman.. :..•.Mrs. Lucille Betts waG introduced to Directors present.

John Ridings in absentia, submitted a prcposedbudget for Apr. f74 to Apr. '75Total estimated budget - :~3667.00.

E. Palmer moved, sec. by Koon and carried that proposed budget be approved.

i'age 51st Vice Pres. Ridings, Chairman of Nomination3 Committee - Reported theyare beginning to compile lists of potential nominees for directors. He wouldappreciate names of potential candidates.

Lloyd Strombeck reported for Editorial Board. Long term objective is tofurther NYFOA thru Forest Owner, our pub Lt.catrion, Short term objectives,to put Forest Owner on a sound financial basis. He dr81-J"attention to'our newlogo, use of white paper instead of recycled paper for printing Foreat Owner.Recycled paper did not receive print 1-Tell. There is also a front page index.Mr. Strombeck WrtS congratulated by Directors on up-graded appearance of ForestOwner. Mr. Strombeck roportod that Ed Moot requested that he be mailed 15courtesy copies that h8' (Moot) could in turn mail out. Gons~nsus of opinionof Directors was that Mr. Hoot be asked to furnish NYFOA Board of Directorsthru Strombeck, names of those to whom he wants courtesy mailings sent. IfBoard approves, courtesy mailings will go from Forest 01-mer mailing office.

It was noted that this is the fifth absence from Directors meeting for HenryHaag. The President Ifill contact him.

Fall Meeting - Hanaburgh - Everything under control. About 50 wer-e expectedto attend.

Lloyd Strombeck introduced Paul Strombeck, County Cooperative Extension~Kingston Office. Paul Strombeck thanked Directors for support of four 4-Hmembers, 2 from city, 2 country environment & Dr. Kelly, prof •.at CornellUniv. They will be speakers at Fall Dinner at Bear Mt. Inn. He lookedforward to a real action committee comprised of Forest Owners, 4 H and Coop-erative Extension. He reported that exhibits & materials from CooperativeExt ens ion wer e set up for member s in Sebago Lodge. Hr. Archie 1IJ. Koon &David Hanabur gh were appointed by Pres. Lub i.nec, to serve on evening panelwith 4 H-er's & Dr. Kelly. Lloyd Strombeck was appointed moderator.

Opinion of Board was asked roe ~1aag being removed as Education Chairman be-cause he had not been per forming. After discussion, Pres. Lub Lnec appointedAlfred Najer to Chairman, Education Committee. NT. Najer suggested one thingeveryone could do and that was to promote Arbor Day colebrations in lu~alschools.

Printing & Mailing - Niss Betty Campbell present committee chairman. Shehas had mombership brochures printed and has mailed them to Strolilbcck,Lubinec& Varian. It vras suggested that she serve in another capacity as metropolitanprinting costs are too high. No further action taken.

Accreditation ..•Hanaburgh - Have belen rosponding to requests for accreditingloggers, members are doi.ngbusiness vdth.Trespass & Condemnation _ Hanaburgh •..Att8mpting to accumulate unjust cases.Concerned with what landowners CAn do in caso of condemnation. Gov. Rockefellerhas appointed a eommission to have hearings on present condemnation p!oceedings.i'1ontionwas made of a bill in Albany with11aOO.OO per tree' fine - see;last issueChrishr8s Tree Gr owers Assoc.Heiberg Award _ Allen Bratton, Chairman. Has placed articles in ConservationistUo:r.tharo1o~~er, N. Y. State For ester and Forest Owne.t'. All nominations forHeiberg Award should be in by ,Tatl113ry], 19I4.

Page 6Land Acquisition - Allen Bratton, Chrmn. No progress. Committee seeks 30 or40 acre parcel of land to use as demonstration forest. Seeking bequests.Jens Hansen, Membership Chairman, announced that members in arrears for duesshould be dropped. Membership secy to note this fact. N.Y. For ester is anew publication to most Directors. Dave Cook is editor. Motion made by PalmerSec. by Najer & Carried that we take a full page ad in N. Y. Forester.Mr. Tyler suggested membership brochures be placed in Forest Dist. Offices &A.S.C.S. offices. He suggested that we talk to Dist. Foresters and ask themto push N.Y.F.O.A. more. It was also suggested that Chairman of ForestPractise Board be contacted. Jens Hansen & Harold Tyler appointed to work onabove project. They are to get list of ASCS& Forest Practise Board addressesand forward list to Strombeck.

Note 'Has made of a reply to Strombeck from Ronald D. Baldwin, Pres. N.Y. TimberProducers Assoc.

Natural Resources & Land Planning - no report

Publicity &' Public Relations - Pres. Lubinec pr a i sed press release whichJane Bar t.on , Publicity Chairman & Edith Meserand, her assistant mailed to 83papers. Hiss Barton hopes to inform general public of lIJYFOA& what organiZ-ation hopes to accomplish. Motion made, sec. & approved that Hiss Bartonbe compensated for postage & Stationery expense connected Hith NYFOApublicity.

Ll eyd Strombeck on Spring Heeting: He announced PnLmer, Hertheimer, Ridings,Mark on committee as 1,{.:;11 as Hiss J. Barton dcing publicity.

Harold Tyler Chrrn, Timber Harvesting & r'iarketing Committee reported thattimber sales c:mtracts had been received. He suggested that a summary ofcontract be put in Forest Owner , He also suggested that contract source bemade available for members I attorneys, as many are not specialists in forestrymatters. The Timber Producers Hill be corrtac t.cd f'or suggestions t:10.

NewBusiness - Jlot.i.on made by Palmer, sec. by sever·al & carried that atdinner at Bear Ht. Inn, Dir. Hanabur gh be publicly thanked for arranging theFall Meoting.

Mr. Tyler had tlsecond theughtstl & suggested we send Forest Owner as courtesymailing to Extension Offices ins toad of ASCS offices. O.K Id by Director s ,It was also suggested that a blurb about NYFOAappear in Extension nows ,Have Hiss Barton O.K. c::>py& then send copy to Strombeck for mailing. Areciprocal agreement between Extension Offices & For est Owners aim of abouveplan.

Old Business - Hr. Najer r epor t ed it Hill cost )~100 legal fee to change name oforganization & that is only the beginning of costs. There was no further dis-cussion.

Hr. Lloyd Strombeck moved, sec. by Tyler & Koon that ~u70A appoint five Trnsteesto accept and manage f:.;rest property for NYFOA. The trustees to hire a pro-fessional forester "Then needed, Mr. Naj or pr-oposed amendment t.o motion-That Trustees have the right to se Ll. secur i ties and to buy other s , Sec. by Koon.

Mr. Palmer proposed second :1mendment -That these 5 Trustees be appointed forterms running 1-2-3-4-5 years to start, each succeeding year appointment bemade for 5 year term. Hotion po-ssod as ammended. Notion made by Strombeck,sec. by Najer & carried that Board of Trustees elect their own officers. Names

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suggested to serve on Board of Trustees - Najer, Hanabur gh , Stock, Bratton.

Lloyd Strombeck announced deadline for copy for next issue of Forest Owneris Nov. 10th.

Strombeck moved" sec , by Palmer & carried t.ha t we adjourn. Next DirectorsHeeting after HGlido.ys.

Present: Directors, Lucille Beets, Jens Hansen, Emiel Palmer, Archie Koon,Harold Tyler, Alfred Naj or , Lloyd Strombeck, David Hanabur gh , President Hm.Lubi.nec , Respectively submitted " el.en F. Varian, Sec. Pro Tem

1973 Fall MeetingSterling Forest & Bear Hount.ai.n Park

Hith the beautiful cooperat Lon of the weather everybody in attendanceseemed to think HO had a good meeting. A few people got l,Jst temporarily butdidn't seem to suffer much from the experience. Those hardy souls that sleptin the Sebago Lake cabins did not complain of the cold. Hany of those who weretoo soft for the cabins ruano-ged to find scarce accomodations at motels in thevicinity of Sterling Forest

Early Saturday morrii.ng HI's. Varian set up refreshments at the recreationhall at Sebago Lake Family Camp. The Ranger there had n fire going in thefireplace and set some hea t.cr s around the room. I picked up 45 box lunches atthe Bear Hountain Inn and brought them out to the camp along with 120 mixeddoughnuts. viith sevcr aL ass i.s tant s we soon had registration going full bLasrtmixed w i t.h coffee, doughnuts and conversation. After a whiLe Pr cs i dontLubinec arrived (he got lost) and ca'l Led a meeting of the Board of Directors.

After lunch we took off for Sterling Forest wher-e lJG mot Jeff Hutchison(one of the Forester's). He conducted us to a logged over area wher e a fire-wocd cutter was cutting dead & dOvTDwood under a cutting permit. He explainedhow Sterling Fcr cs t managed hunters, fishermen, trail bikes, snowmobiles,timber harvesting, mining of peat bogs, the charges and regulation of permits.He took us to Sterling Lake and explained tho Stor ling II' on mines and fur nace ,He explained t.hcmanagemerit of Sterling Lake "mere a fishing permit costs~?l20.00 per year. He took us~o a goingTogg i.ng operation and t.hcn to acluster housing development in the w~ods., 'In the evening He gat.hcr cd at Dear Nountain Inn. The pl.ace was mobbed.

Individuals (not our s ) had to wai t 2 hours for a sitting. Thero had beena \':est Point football game. There was an on-gc i.ng October Fest. There wereseveral other groups meeting at the time. Fe had, fortunately, reserved theIndian Room from 7: 30 PH on. After a weLl, served dinner of chicken breast,baked potato and otherfLxings we sot up a discussion on youth and Environmentaltraining. Ll.oyd Strombeck was Honi tor. Dr. John H. Kelly f'r om Cor nell wasthe guest speaker. He brought with him four outstanding young people from the4-H program in various parts of the State. These were Terry Blew, Jon Trumble,Kathy Holroyd and Emily Pood. After describing the environmental trainingactivi ties that the exbons i.on service was developing Dr. Kelley asked each ofthe young people to describe the activities in whi ch they were involved.Meamrhile car ds had been distr ibuted to the tabLes for noting questions fromthe audience. These cards wer o picked up and Lloyd Strombeck asked the panelthe questions t.ha t appcar od on the cards. The panel consisted of Dr. Kelley,the 4 young pe opLe, Arch.i.c Knon and Dave Han<'1,burgh.

During the discussion it was requestedwere interested in environmental oducation,extension agent to discuss passib, ilitios.much inter ested in our Ill'ToodsFalkstl.

On Sunday morning, those vrho did not have other engagements visited theSterling Forest Gardens. Although technically clcsed for the season, thegardens "mre beautiful and I got kissed by a camel.

that any Forest Landowners, whoget in touch with their countyThe extension people were very

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David H. Hancbur gh, Fall Heeting 1973 chairman

Fll.LLN2ETING - NE'T YORKFDRESTmTNERSllSSOCIATIONOctober 20-21, 1973

Harriman State ?ark, New York

Theme: The Forest Owner and Environmental Education

Results of October 20 ::::;vening :erogr:lm:(Note: Pr ogr am was planned and Imp.llement.ed by a joint-3.ction committee,composed of representatives f'r orn Cooperative Extension, 4-H, New YorkState Depar tmcrrt of Environmental Conservation, Ne"J York Forest OwnersAssociation) •

A. Dr. John Kelley, Department ')1 Natural Resources, Cornell Univer sity,Program Leader - 4-H Natural Resources, vTas keynote speaker. He acquaintedthe Forest Owners Hith the philosophies and purposes of the New York State4-H Natural Resources I'r ogr am, The pr ogr am is di.r ec t-sd to youth appreciationand knowledge of environmental values and problems 3.nd acquisition of dacisionmaking abilities in the management of n3.tural resourcos. Dr. Kelley outlinedhOH the Camp Arnot Teen Leader Training Pr ogr am in Natural Resources accom-plished the above pur poscs , He aLso r ev Iewed environmental 4-H projects beingconducted in county 4-H programs. Dr. Kelley suggested how the Forest Owners'ttYoods l'Talkslt activities could be ooorelated uith the 4-H Nature TrnilsProject.

B. A ttreaction-pancltt discussion followed Dr. Kelley's presentation. Panelmembers included (1) four outstanding 4-H teens from the Arnot Teen LeadersProgram, hvo Forest Owner representatives and Dr. Kelley. The teens intro-duced themselves and spok. of their experiences in environmental conservationprojects d.nd activities. The panel then reacted to questions from the ForestOwner-s (2) llanel modcr at.o- directed the questions to the pa neL, Questionswere prepared on three by five cards.

C. Topics discussed o.mongpanel members and audience inclucled the followingEnvironmental Concern: 1) A consensus of opinion was voiced: a small per-centage oryouth- andac1ults have a concern for their environment andenvironmental problems.

Back racking: 2) Hor e youth are discovering their natural world through back-packing activities.

~0E.e~t_T!..u~t~ 3) The ?resident of the Forest Owners challenged the teenpanel members to assist the Forest Owners Association in mnnaging a demon-stration forest area in the form of a trust. The trust would provide futuregenerations with an oxnmplc of a pr~pcrly managed land resource.

Camp Arnot: 4) Questions about the Arnot i'rogr am were discussed (programdetails,-selection of youth). Forest Owners wer e impressed by Arnot and

Page 9recommended that additional non-L.-H youth be selected to participate.

1)- Dr-: Keliey- selected-four outstat;dlng teen- participant~ In-the-L.=H-Natural Resources ~)rogram, three of whomhad attended the Arnot ?rogram. Theteens were representative of rural and suburban areas of N.Y. State 2) Hoder-at.or was a Forest Owner and former Ccopcr at.Lvo Extension L.-R "Division Leader. -- Lloyd G. Strombeck

QrQag ~r~g!a.!!!:sl. 5) PaneL members cited their exper Lcnccs •.ri th urban youthenvironmental educational projects (especially 'With disadvantaged youth).

Teens: Gave personal experiences "rith discovery activities for boys and girls.Concern for metropolitan areas (great need for awareness programs).

~el)~y.!. Had success working with Put.nam County Nature Center as resourcesconsultant.

Forest Owncrr Indicated his oxpcr ience as consultant for Nature Study Camp~r;gram withNY City ~,'[ission S'ociety.

School Activities: 6)Pbsitiv\; attitudes Here expressed on school environ-mental-curricula:- -HighSchc)ol courses in Ecology, Science Symposiams,Herpetology and BOCESConservation; Conservation Field Days (6th tii"acles)environmental concepts wer e -rxt.ondcrl throughout the school year by supple-mentary activities - eg- tre'3 planting.

Joint I'ro gr amsr 7) youth aud l onccs and Forest O•.mer s could mutuallybenefit from comb.i.nod L.-H and Forest Owner-s activities (eg - L.-HNature TrailProject established on Forest Owner-s property. Trail to be used by youthgroups) •

D. Recommendations and Conclusions

1. Dr. Kelley r ccommondcd that Forest Ownors contact the CooperativeP"xtension L.-HOffice in their county: HOffer you and your forest lands asresources for J-J.-HForestry and Environmental i)rojects. Offer the scheduledtr\;Yoodsl'Yalkst! of the Forest Owncrs to participation by L.-H and ot.hcr youthgroups. Enable L.-Hyouth to establish Nature Trails (using h-H guide) onprivate forest areas for use by youth groups.

2. L.-Hyouth C)articularly teens) and Forest Owners toge t.hcr have a challengeto sensitize the public to environmental problems and issues.

a. Forest 01-vners can br i.n.; a sense of stewardship of the land to thepublic - particularly yout.h ,

b. A public relations cilmpai0n is needed to educators for publiceducation pr ogr ams and to voter s for env i r onmont-aL issues (Note:a Department of Environmental Conservation representative urgedsuppor-t to Ammendrnerrt(/1 NYState Pur e Fatel's l)l'ogl'arn).

3. The panel discussion demonstrated the followillg:

a. Teens and adults can openly discuss issues D.ndarrive upon acommunality of goals and can ar;reo to t.ake action together.

b. As tho discussions develop and real r npport and true fellingsemerged bctHccll n.dults alld youth.

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c. Similar feaUngs in b. were developed among professionals of theForest Owner s, Cooperative Extension and Department of EnvironmentalConservation.

d. The teens, by their example, demonstrated the great value of theArnot Teen Leaders Pr ogram and 4-H leadership programs in general.

e. The moderator HO.8 very enthused- about the interaction of the paneland Forest Owners.

4. To further open lines of communication the following is suggested:

1) Provide Forest Owners with address list of County FJ2Ctension4-HOfficers in NY State.

2) Provide Cooperative Extension 4-H Offices with Forest Owner memberdirectory

Submitted by: Paul M. Strombeck, Cooperative Extension 4-H Agent (UlsterCounty Cooperative F~tension), Chairman of Joint Action Committee.

Note: 60 Forest Owners attended the Fall Meeting.NI:i•.:r YORK FOH§T OHNERS ASSOCIATION

Regular Report of Committee Chairman

(Please mail to president by 10/13 which is one week before next directorsmeeting), even if you plan to ilttenc1.

Committee Name: Budget & FinanceCommittee Hembers: E. Palmer J. Ridings

Long Term Committee Objectives (beyond this fiscal year):Hopefully conserve (accumUlate) some capital for back log for the day wecan employ an executive secretary.

Short Term Committee Objectives (hope to complete before April):Establish budget for 73-4 fiscal year to keep expenditures in line withincome

Progress Report:73-74 Fiscal budget as curren-;ly revised is attached - J. Ridings.

Income:Membership-Dues •••)$3,OOOContributions •.••• )Spring Meeting •••••Fall Meeting •••••••Bank Interest ..••••

Total Income

:TSU YORK FO:t~T Q1.J~J'i1RS ASSOCIATIOn - Revised 9-29-73- Fr;~osed-Jud~etfc)r ~iscal-Year1April 1973-4

Expenditures:Forest O;ner:.:.:":.: ••...•••••.• $1,500

22034524

15026560

Membership Committee............. 200Stationery & Questionnaires...... 150Election of Directors............ 50Heiberg Nemorial Award........... 50Bank Service Charges............. 12Educational... .••. .••...•••.•...• 76Miscellaneous.................... 25

$3,127

202290175

3,667

Spr ing Meeting ••.•..•••.••••.••••Fall Heeting ••...••.•..••••...•••Directors Meeting •••.•••••.•.••••Non NYFOA Meetings •..•.•••••.••.•Hembership Secretary's Of'f'Lce , , ••Phone ..•........................•

Tot.al Expenditures$540Net Income

P3Jge 11ItSUGGESTIONS FOR NEV,T DIRECTORS NEEDED-------------------

Do you know a member who would:1. Serve 3 years as a director of NYFOA.2. Be active on the board.3. Attend most of the 8 or 9 board meetings each year.4. Be the type of person to further the interests of our association.

If you know of such a person, take a minute ana send his or her name andaddress to nominations chairman, John Ridings, R D #2, Cazenovia, N. Y.13035.It

ANNUAL SPRING MEETING

The Annual Spring Meeting will be held on April 16, 1974 at the North-way Inn, Syracuse, N. Y. at the junction of Route 81 and the Thruway. Readthe For est Owner for further developments.

NOMINATIONS FOR HEIBERG AVJARD---------------Nominations for Heiberg Memorial AvJard presented by the New York Forest

Owners Association in memory of Svend O. Heiberg for significant contributionsto the fields of forestry and conservation in New York State are invited byNYFOA. Nominations must reach Allen H. Bratton, Chairman of the Heiberg AwardCommittee, R. D #1, Cooperstown, N. Y. 13326, by January 4, 1974.

A brief biographical sketch of the nominee is requested. Nominationsare open and a nominee does not need to be a member of NYFOA. Selection ismade by the Board of Directors and announcemen t of the awar d is made at theAnnual Meeting in April.

The 1973 Balsam Tour got off to an ominous start: no bus showed up totransport the participants. Due to a misunderstanding, the bus arrived atCnamplain, New York, six hours late.

However, participants cheerfully volunteered to drive some of their owncar s. From that point on, things "rent completely as planned and as depicted,in part, in the f'ol.Lov i.ng captioned phot.ogr aphs ,

Nearly three dozen persons travelled in a caravan of eight cars to visitbalsam Christmas tree OPerations in Quebec and New Hampshire. The sun shonepart of the time and although there was intermittent rain, it did not spoilprogram or "dampen" spirits.

I'Yithtongue in cheek somewhat, Professor Foulds predicted that the idealChr istmas tree in year s to come wou Ld, in all probab ilitY' be a balsam firor a D0)J.glas-fir. It would take only seven years to grow to marketable size.It would not need to be sheared because of the large number of internodal budsdeveloped by selective breeding. It would have the right taper because itwould have been p;rafted that way. Because of natural resistance to insects anddisease, it would not have to be sprayed for protection.

Moreover, it would be financially worthwhile: production cost - $2.00;sale price $12.00l

He pointed out that the market for low-pr;Lced trees should not be over-looked. Everyono cannot afford high-quality, high-pr iced trees.

~Iany Vermont growers, he went on, are "giving up on Scotch pine."Difficulties with poor color, crooked stems, insects, disease, and the shortshearing season are the reasons.

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H:3C!'<]Y, F~.:LK.S, t.hE' 1;"10 is not gOl!1g to beher-e in tim'?t If

s!m R"BULT of only eight yearsof cult.ural care from time ofplanting.

BIRCH WGS are th'=l pr i nc i.oa), r aw materialfor the "maple" colonial furniture produced.

RIC;P.ARD TlOHNP,Yshows the good root deve l.opment of hisba'Lsam tre.nsplants. tJe lifts .lildir:,i<:: Lr; Lat.o J~.im;·',f!l'

e pr mg , T~l:.i grov fo:~ t'to."O ysar s in tTElnspladt 'bedsbeforE; be Lnr; rll1l1ted in the fie1rl. His tctc:l ~H,nualpLant.Lng program invulves 100,000 trees.

GROUPLIST:st-J'3 INT'2JTLY as Ls:.ghton Cree, dis-cusses a nar t i.cul.ar I.v fine, gr af't.ed , "bluet!balsam in his seed orchard.

BY MEANS OF TRACTOR.••,)RN'N TTAGON, the group toured LeightCree's Natural stand and discusscc management techniques.

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In the production of balsam fir Christmas trees, the trend today is awayfrom wild trees to those raised in plantations.

Ideal beginning taper of the tree is 40%. That is, the "ridth of the treeshould be 40% of its height. This becomes 60% by the time the tree is marketed.He pointed out that the U.S. Standards for Grades of Christmas Trees had beenrevised in 1973. (Copies of these new grades' booklets are available freefrom Extension Forester, Fernow Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y.14850.)

An important pest of the balsam fir is the balsam twig aphid. Sometimesyears may pass without an infestation but, like the potato bug, it eventuallyfinds its host and control measures h8ve to be taken.

As was emphasized earlier on the Tour, all balsam firs are not alike.The University of Vermont has collected 32 different strains from alloverNorth America. One particularly important feature of balsam f'or Christmas treepurposes is the development of at least 30 internodal buds.

In the matter of ·Heed control, Professor Foulds referred to Bulletin700 (1969) of The Connecticut Agr icultural Experiment Station--~2h~m!c.§.1_C~nj:y£l.::?f_H~e~s_i~Christmas Tree Plantings. (Copies are available f'reefrom t.heExtension Forestcr~ Fcrnow-Hall,-Cornell University, Ithaca, N. Y. 14850.)

He reported that Atrazine and Simazine had been tested at rates of 4, 8,12, and 16 pounds of the active ingredient per acre. The best results wereobtained with a mixture of h pounds of Atrazine and 8 pounds of Simazine appliedper acre. The wettable powder was found to be cheaper to apply than granularformulations, and Atrazine sprayed over the trees (still Jormant) in Maycaused no injury. Tests also showed that S Lmazine is broken down by soilbacteria wi, thin four years so that no damage; to the environment OCCUl'S.

Atrazine acts sooner but Simazine last longer.Twice as much of these chemicals is required to control sedge grasses in

wet locations.IiThileit is sometimes possible to combine fertilizer "rith herbicide in a

single application, it should be borne in mind that frequently weekilling alonemay be all that's necessary.

It was mentioned in discussion tlltGeigyTs Ekko SOH cont.ained 40%Atrazine and 40% Simazine.

EBERLEY LETT FRS

Coscomb makes reply to Eb erIey letter concerning irJoodprices'

To the Editor:In the Boonville Herald for Aug. 22, Ken Eberley had published a letter

to the editor in regard to basic stumpage prices and the fact that his answersHere not satisfactorily answered at the Landowners an d Forest Industry Meetingon Aug. 17.

I would like to go over Mr. Eberley's points categorically and if I can'tsupply the answers I shall at least present the facts.

A statement was made that everything except wood prices has doubled andtripled in the past thirty years. I have been associated with logging for thepast 25 years. l'ThenI first started stumpage prices of ~~20 and ;$25 per Mwere common for hard ma.ple, birch and cherry. Today;~75 and :,)100is common,depending on the grade and acessibili ty of the wood. .

On the other hand beech, soft maple and the poorer grades of wood couldnot even be sold in any quantity 25 years ago. Now they have stumpage valueup to :?40per M. In the first case, the good grades of wood have trulytripled in stumpage price to the landowner though prices have not tripled tothe logger. In the second case the poorer species are worth 30 to 40 timeswhat they were worth 25 years ago.

If Mr. Eberley refers to the price of spruce and fir pulpwood I wouldhave to agree that it hasn't risen in price appreciatively for 30 years:, butthe fact remains that at that time we were engaged in the second world warand pape~ was in very short supply. As to hardwood pulp and pine pulp, Ican only say that neither has been in general use long enough to provide abasis for price guides. He must remember that irTithall new manufacturingprocesses, the raw material nat.ura'lLy is in great supply. I feel confidentthese species will reach the point of decreasing supply and hence the pricewill rise accordingly.

As to the ipJelcomeLandowners sign at our meeting, I can draw no conclusionsexcept that it meant exactly what it said. \pYe are sincerely sorry if thethought was projected in any manner \rJhichmade the landowners present feel"On the bottom of the totem pole." Actually to any right-thinking logger~ thelandowner must be placed at the very top since this soo t is where the actionstarts. Personally I can say that I have made many f~iends in my dealingswith landowners and many of them have certainly made me friend.

To quote Mr. Eberley "the price of lumber is sky high and price of paperis high." The stumpage prices have ~ept pace within the reality of supplyand demand. Again the species of wood must be considered and it is indeed un-fortunate if in particular cases an individual has only the lower-pricedspecies to sell.

Mr. Eberley is not a member of the New York State Timber Producers Assoc.He would be happy to have his membership if he could qualify, but at thistime the organization is open solely to independent timber harvesters.

As to withholdtng logs from market, I believe th.'ltany activity of thissort would only worsen the situation. I think more c.in be gained by cooper-ation and understanding than can possibly be gained bv coercion.

The price of la~q must be closely associated with the price of stumpage.Timber rrPising for profit is and always has been a risky venture but theprice of woodland has risen from ;~4 an acre 25 years ago to ~)l00 or more peracre at the present time. Considering land as an investment I would concludethat money taken from the sale of wood more than pays for the decreasedvalue of the land provided the wood is harvested in a manner prescribed by aqualified forester.

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SincerelyRobert H. CoscombFormer President and Present Member of theBoard of Directors New York state TimberProcucers Association

Hoodlot Owners Can't receive enough money for their wood

To the Edi t.or•In reply to Mr. Coscomb I s letter to the editor of the Boonville Herald

for Aug. 29, I wish to say that Hr. Coscomb did not answer my question, t'lrJhycan It the woodl.o t owner get enough for his logs and pulpwood to pay for histaxes? II

Mr. Coscomb is talking about the price the logger gets and I am talkingabout the price the woodlot owner gets. In quoting the price of logs, Mr.Coscomb goes back a little bit too far. In those days a quart of milk 1,J'asworth 10 cents and a dollar was worth a dollar.

A cord of pulpwood is 4 foot by 8 foot. It takes a good many trees tomake a cord of pul.pwood, These, trees take about 40 years to grow to pulpwoodsize.

The woodlot owner is paid ,,~3a cord. This figures out to about 20 centsa tree that landowner gets. How can you pay your taxes at this price? This

Page 15is why I an sugges ting that the woodlot owner ~vithhold his logs from the market.He has been giving his 1(;8 and puLpwood away for too long a time.

In Mr. Coscomb's point by point discussion, I noticed he did not touchon the subject of the "timber agent." Has it too hot to handle? The reasonwhy the office c.f tunher agent was created was because the logger was robbingthe !small woodlot owner '.blind.

I do not know why JIlr.Coscomb brought up the inflationary price of realestate. Hhat has this got to do with the price the landowner gets for hislogs and pu.Ipwocd?

In closing, I was happy to learn that I could not qualify for membershipin the New York State Timber Producers Association. You fellows do not enjoya very good rsput.ation, I understand that your association was organized totry to give the logrter a·better reputation. A few ~eeks ago I read in thepaper that one of your top officials was involved in a lawsuit. You fellowswill never change.

Yours truly,Ken EberleyFhitesboro, N. Y.

Lloyd G. Strombeck57 Main St.Owego, N. Y. 13287

Dear Mr. Strombeck:My personal thanks for your contribution to our program at Boonville.

I believe that He planted some seeds Hhich are starting to sprout.Enclosed you will find an up-to-date membership list of our Assoc. to

use as best suits your group. Also find enclosed my personal npplication toyour Association.

Sincerely,Honald BaldwinPresident

Hedusa, N. Y.October 6, 1973

Editor Forest Owner57 Main St.Owego, N. Y.Dear Lloyd,

I was most sorry to read that Robert Ford passed away recently. Hewas very instrumental with the Forest Practice Board. He was conscious of ourenvironment - long before it came into prominence, as it is today •

.Here at L-Ghorn Farm, we have completed another 25 acres of woodlandimprovement, and just came under the wire, on the old reap program. Alltold we have completed 285 acres of woodland improvement.

vIe have two native Amer ican Chestnut trees. Our 10 inch - DBH Chestnutis dying - the bark at the trunk is starting to warp and buckle. Last yearit bore quite a few nuts - as we found the burrs on the ground. The smallerChestnut tree is dOing fino.

\tIithour energy crisis, a greater utilization of wood, and consciousof our environmental requ i.rement.s, we need the N. Y. State Forest Ounar sAssociation more than ever before.

Sincerely yours,John Smigel

Sweden was the first country to place severe restrictions on the use ofDDT. Restrictions were announced early in 1969 to take effect January 1, 1970.In December 1969 an exception was granted to permit continued use of DDTfor control of the Largo pine weev.iL, SvJeden couldn't afford the destructionof her fcrests and neither can the U. S. This legislation should provide anew opportunity to weish the benefits and risks of using Dm on destructiveinsects for which no other control is known.

LEGISLATION AFFECTING DDT

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The continuing spread of the gypsy moth in the East and the Tussock mothin the irjesthas resulted in introduction of a number of bills intened tomake DDT availabl, for use in combating these forest pests. H. R. 9390 andH.R. 9391 would a~thorize use of DDT for gypsy moth. H .R. 10053 and 10347would authorize use of DDT to control insect infestations. H.R. 10138 andS. 2435 would authorize use of DDT to control the tussock moth.

APA COHMENT

ITEHS FOR THOUGHT - Ed Moot

Ah, a fine issue. Keep it up. Just right. Lots of small items byeveryone. First thing you know most owners will take time, sit down, usea bean thresher like mine, or even a 19¢ ball point pen and send you awritten missile.

The purpose of a house organ is to MicKE folks think. You are doing justthat - keep it up.

The more ideas you get in the TREE OHNER hopper the better all of uswill be in the care and management of our forests, whether they are large orsmall in acreage.. Just a few ideas to keep the pot boiling:

1. Hhy do we sit idly by, while the-State of Alaska- timber gamblers hi.rethe best woodsmen from the Lower 1)-1-9, 1ITithBIG wages, to come up in Seward'sICE BOX and cut all of that vi.rzi.ntimber - THEN SHIP IT TO JAPAN for the TOPdollar in the wor Ld trade. Is the bureaucratic process in lrJashington,D. C.so ossified that they can not see this process depletes our own forestreserves BUT it means your daughters and sons, when they get married can notget lumber to build a house and settle down to the one sociological bed rockpolicy of life in the U. S., HAPPY marrLed life to protect and preserve ourbasic national heritage.

VJe got stung on both the grain and cotton deals, nOH they want to gambleaway our timber resources. CAN NO ONE STOP THIS PROCE,sS?2. The wood burning stove as an auxilliary heat source in case of oil 01'

electric shortages. Ha , that is a hot .issue , I'LL wager my last dollar thatthe smoke emission from a wood burner is far less dangerous, ('cologically,than the unseen smoke emission from oil in our heating process.

A retired minister solv('d this issue several years ago vhen he plannedhis retirement home. I would not dare to mention his name as reportersfrom allover vroul.d be chasing him up as the ISSUE Hill be a very hot one inthe next half decade. He planned his retirement house, set up his oilburning heat source, THEN he added one extra flue outlet for a wooJ burnerstove, a small one, where the!smoke woul.d enter his chimney and fireplace flues.Boy, hDw foresighted can one person be, let alone a fine minister. Then hedrew , in his own small car, several cords of scrap pieces, all sawed to suit-able length, from a local Lumber mill processer. He must have at least fourfarmers cords of wood neatly stored in his ce1131'.

Page 17Can this association not contact builders NOF and sugp;est they plan one

extra flue outlet, for a wood burner, in all future planning for homes whichare built on separate lots (it is not silly to think this might fit the smallapartment complex).

I do not know about you, but I would gladly show any enterprising homeowner how to get FREn; weed tree wood from our forest - FREE if they did thework and were careful in the forest. This brings up the need for a formalcontract, today, .vith anyone who works on or about our private land. Somany want to sue, even if they tresspass and stumble over a stick in a woods.'ltTe have become SUE minded.

I have suggested that a trucker take out some of our wood pulp stock.The three I contacted wanted ME to cut the stuff to length, draw it to theroad side and GIVE it to them before they would touch itl vJhat a world we livein.

Come on folks, flood Editor v.Tilsonwith letters and ideas. "He sure needa lot of chatter to survive as private forest owners.

No one in v,rashington is listening today - too much wrapped up with thev.Tatergate vaudeville show. If timber is CUT in national forests it shouldenter the U. S. market, NOT be shipped allover the globe - write in -express your ideas.

Did you read how Russia is USING the detente idea to filch the EuropeanCOHHON MARKET. It seems the Common Market subsidizes all farmers in theCommon Market nations. Those who produce BUTTER get a base pay quarantee.So much butter moved into the Common Market reserves that more than 400,000tons piled up in stock piles - yes - 400,000 tons. Hhat did the Russians do -they bought the 1rTHOLEstock pile for 19¢ PHR LB.

Ha, laugh that one off if you will. 1tThenbureaucrats get into theeconomic 1rJarfarewaged in commodities, that warfare is far worse than war fareon the open field of battle.

So, as forest owners letts get HOPPING HAD and insist that all lumberin Alaska and our national - state forests go into the U. S. market NOT beshipped abroad. Time to HOWL fellows.

DIRECT FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH: - Ed Moot---------------------It pays to communicate. The article re timber being shipped to Japan.

Mr. Robert E. Jones of the American Forest Institute informs me that THE JONESACT (no relation to this Mr. Jones) provides that all merchandise going bywater between American ports MUST go by American ships.. Boy, does that penal-ize our American lumber market. Lets get our congressmen to lr.JAKE up and amendthis Jones Act now so Alaskan timber can (m1E to ports of the other r 49. \tJhywait? Bombard your congressmen with letters now. Lets cut out all of thisshipment of American lumber to Japan until our own market can stabilize itselfand get lumber so our kids can buy some and build their own homes. lhis inNO way conflicts lrJith our own mar kct i.ng of our own timber from our own priva teforests, especially in saving the economic morale of OUR ovm folks.

The American Forest Institute has sent me an excellent up to date summarylisting all state organizations similiar to our own NYFOA, If the Board ofDirectors want to appoint me as interstate liason man I will gladly act andnot send out any material to any of the groups unless it is first approvedby the officers of our own association but will accumulate material, nationwide, which I can report in our own Forest Owner if that is the wish of theorganization.

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AN AHEN.DHENT TO THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LA-V-.T

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An Act to amend the real property tax law in relation to the assessmentof certain forest and re-forested lands was introduced into the State Senate,January 15, 1973 and committed to the Committee on Taxation.

The real property tax Law provides that eligible tracts of land shall beassessed separately for tax purposes and that such forest lands will beassessed upon t~e basis of the value of the land including the value of anybuildings or structures thereon but excluding planted or underplanted treesor natural reproduction. The Act further provides that the assessment ofsuch forest land will not exceed the valuation fixed at the time of classif-ication on similar lands in the same town without substantial forest growth.

The amen~~ent to the property tax law provides that assessments onfor est land may be increased or decreased to reflect any change in the levelof assessment of all other property on the assessment roll of the assessingunit.

This Act shall take effect on the first day of Oc t.obor next sllcceedingthe date on which it shall have become,law.

j- - - BULKRATE -- - -,U.S. POSTAGE

P A I DBinghamton, N. Y. I

I Permit No. 132'- -'-

DR. RICHA~D V. LEA905 WESTCOTT ST.SYRACUSE, N.Y. 13210