Lecture Diwali Pooja 2007

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DIWALI POOJA 2007, DELHI INDIA HH SHRI MATAJI NIRMALA DEVI

Happy Diwali (lots of clapping).....Happy Diwali to you all

(again clapping)....

You saw dances of various types/forms, understand one

thing from this; whoever wrote or stated these; are saying

one and only thing and the biggest thing they have ever

said - that God is one. HE/THEY (GOD) has/have taken

different avatars but God is one. They don’t have any

differences between them. And their advent happens just to

destroy the evil/demon/devil. To ruin wrong people.

And this is happening. I see in all places that wrong people

are been exposed, everywhere. And this is also your task

now. You make sure that whoever does wrong, wrong for

earning money, working against God, should go to hell

(clap). We don’t know how many hells are there. Now the



place where you are sitting, the atmosphere where you are

sitting is away from hell. It has nothing to do with hell. If

you live here, in it, and do wrong, you can also go to hell.There are many types of hell. And arrangements to go there

are also very fine. Because the people advancing to the hell

do not even know where they are going. And those who

remain go to heaven. On this earth no one knows that we

have to go to hell. And Diwali’s meaning is, as Deepak (light/illumination) is done outside, in the same manner it

enlightens you from inside. And you see to it, that you are

the Deepak in this dark world and you have to remit light.

But if the light is incomplete inside how will you give light

to others. Whatever you think, but you Sahaja yogis need to

complete light inside first. Most probably for this reason

only we have come to this world.

Till Jesus Christ no one talked on this matter. He came to

Agnya chakra and revealed fully that he did not have any

ego. He was the son of God and he had no ego. Those who

were before him told something but Jesus wanted our

Agnya a chakra to be fully repaired. And this Agnya chakra



gets catches a lot in this Delhi city (laughs a little). What is

the reason behind it? Englishmen lived here and they

introduced us to learn egoism. You can make this out even from talking to people. We have seen those days even when

our nation was slave. But you have come out of that

slavery. Now it’s freedom. And meaning of freedom,

swatantra is to be at you your inner self mechanism, swa.

The one who knows swa – inner self, knows swatantra. Youhave known yourself from Sahaja yoga and you know you

are the tantra. And you have to follow your tantra

(mechanism). A lot of work is done in Delhi and it’s very

apparent. Work has been done outside Delhi also. The fault

of people here is very well known to you. No need for me to

tell about this. But you are SWA-TANTRA now. So you

should see that you don’t have this fault in you. First

fault/problem is that Agnya chakra is having catches. Jesus

Christ died, crucified, but we have not learnt a bit from it.

On the contrary, Christian nations are filled with ego. They

have over powered us also. But the biggest problem here is

that we do not know each other still. Quarrels here and

there; differences here and there; and do not have clear



heart for each other. So the first thing is to make our hearts

clear. Everything can be done through SAHAJA YOGA.

People can reach anywhere. For this it’s not essential yougo and sit in the Himalayas. You can do this sitting in Delhi

even. But when you see around and find egoist people with

catches on Agnya then it’s too difficult. Now God has sent a

new thing – cancer. Now if you catch cancer and Agnya

chakra does not repair then cancer can’t be cured. And it’sgoing to be problematic. So it’s essential for people

suffering with cancer to adapt to Sahaja Yoga. And get rid

of the ego they have inside. Because where there is

government people get egoist. We have a lot of government

servant and they are filled with ego. But those who came

from outside are bigger than these persons even. And on

this, they take liquor. Taking liquor means you are going

against yourself. You are refusing your own Agnya chakra.

Not listening to it. If a person gets rid of his Agnya chakra

he can never take liquor. Never. You can find people taking

liquor here and there. By doing this, they are left it no way

to get rid of Agnya chakra. So, any kind of habit/ addiction

takes us into illusion. Any habit. Now here, habit/addiction



of chewing PAAN is much. In that they put tobacco. God

has given you birth in this nation with so love that you can

become very different/peculiar from this world. You canvery well be. Indians are. But here I see 2-4

diseases/problems more in them. One is that they eat money

in place of food. From the way I came today, I felt sad that

it was not there before. And the new road is made such

that no one can say this is a newly made road. This can bedone by Indians only. I have not seen so shameless people

elsewhere. They do these things without any need. Anyone

can do these things. So we have to decide today that we

have to correct our AGNYA first. The biggest thing in

Agnya is we think we are the best and we can run the

world. How can you correct world when you are not

corrected. You might have seen so many people who think

themselves big and do wrong things. In this country people

eat money. Tell how God will forgive them. The biggest

crime is thievery and corruption. Those who are indulged

in such work may do anything, pooja-paath, namaaz, call

Allah but won’t get anything.



Today is your New Year. Congrats. And I want you all to

take oath that we won’t say lie. Indians are known for their

lying in the world I have seen that. Don’t know why ournation is tagged that way, that they are liars. This has been

a place of so renowned sadhu-saints, Sufis, why people so

lie here. So you take oath today that I won’t lie, under any

condition. You need courage for this. But now when you

have gone beyond (Paar) what more courage you need.You just cannot lie. And when you will become such then

only people will have faith in you that these people are

true. Sahaja Yogi has to be true.

If you are an engineer making roads, are a doctor treating

patients, in spite of having all these things, it is hell for you.

Now you have changed your face, you have gone beyond

(Paar) and if a realized person lies then he can have no

benefit. When I listen about our nation in abroad it hurts

me a lot. That people here are very fraud, liars and make

money by wrong ways.

Today is a very auspicious day and commit today that we



will not say lie ever under any condition. I am a lady, that

too Indian, but I never lie. You will be at loss by saying lie.

By doing wrong things you will be at loss. You can earnmoney a lot, and many things you might do but can’t go to

heaven. But will go to hell. It is essential to know that we

are looked down by other nations. Why are we notorious?

- Just because we have such people. If you know that some

one is a liar, you make one institution and ask that person – what is the meaning of all these? If there is a road and its

not made properly, ask how much money was spent on it?

And keep watch on them what they are doing? They are

going to take liquor after earning such money. Liquor is

our enemy. Why you want this? You people are in very

good condition. There are many poor in this country. But I

have seen them very honest/incorrupt. So, honesty is the

first priority, it should be the commitment today. We will

not do any dishonesty nor will be with dishonest. And if

someone does any wrong we will teach him the lesson.

Now people will say – Mother, there are corrupt people in

police, and here and there. But you are a Sahaja Yogi.



Sahaja Yogi is not any less from any policeman or any

celebrity. They have immense power and all power is of

truth. Truth has to be there (clapping). There are manySahaja Yogis who are with truth. Who is the truth

themselves? But we want many other more that become the

truth. Truth is very essential. Otherwise your Agnya won’t

break. In Agnya there is one thing – Ego. When a man get

ego he does bad things. He does corruption, make money;they will go to hell. I want to tell you that you should not be

corrupt. What you got from this corrupted money. You are

not growing. What is the use? Might have installed 2-4

lights, might have kept 2-4 ladies. What else? But now

when you are going to hell what is going to be your

condition?

Now on Diwali day I am telling you all these because on

this day Sitaji came back to Ram. When we will have a

character we cannot remain slave. We are a slave of

ourselves not others. You do not have to lie for anything. I

have lived in Delhi a lot. And I was astonished the way

people tell lies here. Oh My God. They don’t fear any one;



White lies. They might be benefited from it by making

money but can’t go to heaven. I want all SAHAJA YOGIS to

take oath that we won’t lie nor will we support liars(clapping). People say about our country that we are very

corrupt. I have roamed many places. I have seen that

Russian people are very good. They are already half

Sahaja Yogis. And many Sahaja Yogis are there. I could not

go to Russia this year. May be next year will go, it’simportant. But this means we can’t adhere to democracy.

We should also be communist. There is no thievery, no

lying and there is so love. They also respect me very much.

But the thing to understand is which way are we leading

to? Where are we going to earn this little money? What are

we going to achieve? So, first stick to honesty. You people

will only suffer by your dishonesty. For Indian people say

that they are very corrupt. It’s so shameful. You people had

saints, such great people but here people are such

swindlers. They theft a lot and talk wicked. So from this

doing your Agnya is frightened before hand. People are

growing great rich and that Mr. Rich, at the end, is going

to hell. I want to tell today that Diwali means that hell is



darkness and you are light. You need to fight the darkness

wherever it is. And tell that it is wrong. From this only our

country will improve. This is also a task that you have to fulfill. We are already doing pooja-paath but the power in

us is that we are against the untruth. Many people have a

disease of making money. They will go to hell directly. I am

telling you because no one told like this before.

On this Diwali day I am telling that we will celebrate, and

will illuminate Deepak in our heart. In the light of that

Deepak we will see who is who and what kind is. Now I see

the mutual quarrels. But the fight of Hindu -Muslim is over

now. But others have started. Another thing is that we are

very quarrelsome. In other countries there are not so

religions as here. Here they just get any chance and they

fight. Fight is first. Then quarrel between husband and

wife, then children quarrel, then fighting with others.

What is Sahaja Yoga? Sahaja Yoga is Love. Love.

Enlighten the power of Love in you. Today is a very

auspicious day and we have to enlighten Deepak in our



hearts. And take oath that we won’t say lie even if we die.

We had such kind of people. But now we are so notorious

that we are corrupt. I haven’t seen any. But when I hear it I feel sad. India is such a pious country. Here we had saints,

Sufis, all great people happened to be here. No country had

so many great people. Either one or two. But what those

people taught us? Leave that apart, we are the thieves of

the top category. Thieves can never go to heaven. And thelife you have here, you will get thousand times more life in

hell. Today I am talking about hell because the hell which

is darkness that we see. Now your Deepak are enlightened,

now you see what hell is. You help government whether you

are in a big position or small, you should tell who is a thief.

Catch thieves, catch liars. For what Shakti has chosen you.

You are awakened for what? See yourself in the light you

have. See what you are? And what will you achieve by

lying? I/We am/are a family. I/we never lied. I/we can not.

Just see yourself. We have to finish darkness. But we are

notorious. It’s so sad. No where are persons like us. How

wrong people think about us. And do not know what they

get by dishonesty. But what you will attain is scary. No one



will be left. All dishonest will be trapped. It’s an

arrangement. You have got beyond (paar) because you are

not dishonest. You love and honour the truth. I want you tostand on truth.

Now like, people throw garbage in Yamuna Ji (River of

Delhi city). So foolish. Yamuna Ji directly lands to hell. But

you will be saved from that hell. You have gone beyond (paar). But if you want to be one with Sahaja Yoga

completely make sure we won’t do any dishonesty at any

cost. The only work left in this world is to earn money

(laughs). What is the benefit? No one remembers them. If

you love your nation, first be with truth. What is faith in

love of a liar? This is a big problem of yours. Because you

see your neighbor and wishes to be like him. Why don’t you

think to make neighbour like yourself. First take oath today

that we won’t be dishonest and not support dishonesty.

Telling lie is like a curse to our nation. Many a people

don’t feel satisfied till they don’t lie ten times a day. You

are no poorer now. Things are better, meals are better. You

are not beggars. They why you lie? You don’t have to lie



anymore you decide it today and won’t get along with liars.

We will have no relations with them. It is very ecstatic. You

very well know that liars will go to hell. And you will followthem. You are awakened by God. You have light now. In

that light you see. Decide that you won’t lie even if your

head is chopped off. Indians are very good in this matter I

know but abroad when I hear this I feel sad.

Like the way this road is made, is it any road? I felt as if

going to any jungle. If you see such things you have your

organization. Ask them who made it. Why made it? How

much money you made? All Sahaja Yogis should become

one. And you should try to take out the ghost out from our

India. Wherever we go people say that we don’t have faith

in Indians. How shameful. We Indians ought to be believed

the most. We had great leaders, great people, and great

souls. And we don’t see the name they have still. People

have so faith in them. They have faith even in you I know.

But do not be with thieves. If you know that a person is

thief/corrupt don’t have meals in his house. Thieves will be

in great trouble.



I tell you that you are the policemen of God. Trace all the

thieves you get. Fill courage in your children also. Find out the wrong doers and liars. Our nation got awakened with

so many saints. It’s not your need to lie. What if you do not

get food? No one ever dies because of not having food. You

do not have problem of food. But you take liquor with it.

This takes you one more step to destruction. We can’t beimproved after liquor. Now Americans take out new things.

A child when get 16 he should start earning. Like all are

servants. When they wash car or any work done, they are

paid. At 16 they say I am 16 now. Now tour outside. We

think that child is 16 now. What will he do? What he study.

There, they kick out the child at 16. Mother and father both.

Let us see how far Americans will go with it. They are

destroying themselves. No one grows big by buying one or

two aeroplanes. Who are you? What is your level? India is

a nation which can save the whole world. Whole world. But

it has to have truth. It is must. Truth in every aspect. I do

not understand why you do not adhere to truth. All rich

should understand that you are rich now. You should keep



silence now. Do not think to earn more. Till date I have not

seen any person happy by having lots of money. You are a

Sahaja Yogi. You have the light. Now see your way in that light. And path is of truth. Whether you are a Muslim

Hindu, Christian it does not matter. You are a human

being. If a human is not uncorrupt, he is dishonest, no one

will know him. We have life after this even, how will it be?

There are so benefits of honesty. The biggest you get is the

blessing of God almighty. It is so amazing that you will be

surprised that everything will be done without any effort.

But now in India, rich or poor, all are after money. And

after that richness even, there are so poor here. That’s why

today those people should also have Diwali. They also

should be happy that we are from the same country. But we

are so intelligent that we betray ourselves. This leads to

ego in us. After that no one can be saved in any way. You

will catch cancer because of that ego. And you can’t save

yourself after that. Not even I can save you. I am telling you

the truth. Burn your ego into fire first. And have shame – of

what you have ego? In our country people have ego of



passing B.A. and after that studies, ego doubles. If some

one becomes doctor or engineer, he gets ego. These catches

of Agnya will take you directly into hell. And hell is a scary place. God gave you intelligence and you are Paar now.

Even after that you want to go hell, go. No one before told

this said this. Today is an auspicious day because today

many good things happened. Sitaji came back to Ram. All

big things happened with realized people. So, decide that we won’t do any dishonesty and catch the culprits.

But in this world I see fight of white and black, and other

differences. They want to break India but it will lead to

nowhere. But when you have a character, you are honest

you will be benefited. There is nothing to learn from

Englishmen. They all now are in worst condition today. But

we have to save country and save world as well. It is a big

responsibility. But when you are paar even then you want

to fall in a ditch. What to do? All should put joint efforts. I

want to make a committee of Sahaja Yogis. If you see any

wrong tell the committee. And see what the committee does.

In this way only you can have name. You can get into big



position. So the first thing is - don’t become dishonest and

don’t let others be. It is a scar on your country. Oil is

adulterated, ghee is adulterated. People laugh on us all over. No one has faith in us in spite of the fact that we are

the best people. Never so many got paar. It’s better to earn

‘Punya’ (virtuous action) than earning money. Look after

the most poor. Today is a very auspicious day and day of

Anand. But Anand for what? That we are in heaven now. And we wish to live in heaven only. But cowards can’t go to

heaven. Do not fear. If you get one or two penny less, what

is the problem in it? All are rich now. I am seeing this of

my visits for last 17-18 years. You all are rich from before.

Condition is improved but dishonesty, dishonesty whole

day. So the way is there. But take oath all today that we

will not be dishonest and will oppose it as well. Sahaja

Yoga is given to you to put light. If you do not have it inside

how will you put it outside? Put light and see that we are

helping dishonest. Nothing happens if you earn less. If you

are dishonest God helps you. Why are people so here in our

country nor any where else.



Reason is that all want to go to hell. So be assured, if you

are dishonest, your first step is towards hell. And there is

no need to lie. If a person does not lie and he is in SahajaYoga, he is going to be grand. Like you remember Sufis,

people will remember you. Do not do the other work, catch

the dishonest. It’s a must. Here we have to tell people

don’t throw garbage in Yamuna Ji. I have roamed so many

countries. Nowhere is garbage thrown into river. Why are you so lazy? Here are so many arrangements. Give the

garbage to municipality. But you are the garbage here.

What will you do?

Today is a very very good day. Decide we won’t be corrupt

nor follow corrupt. I have seen such people who not only

are honest and don’t go to homes of dishonest. Because

dishonest not only damages himself but gives loss to the

nation as well. So take oath today. You just recognize that

this person is corrupt. And you need to be 12 Sahaja Yogis.

If 12 Sahaja Yogis recognize that the person is corrupt,

God is with you. Little rich can’t benefit this nation. But

little honest can. Sahaja Yogis cannot be dishonest that is



my belief. We have to be one. If we chase the dishonest he

will have sleepless nights. Teach children not to be

dishonest. You will catch diseases if you are dishonest. If someone takes liquor or is corrupt do not eat food at his

home. We have to save our country. God will see to them.

But you become deaf ears towards these. These people

can’t do any benefit. You are realized and India has

maximum number of realized people after Russia. Manyrealized soul have to take birth. But why will they come

here when here is so corruption. Have courage. God is not

with corrupt. God is with you.

What will happen if you have one shirt not 10? Same with

ladies. Many Sufi born here and they knew God is behind

them. They tried to improve things. But not all Sufis did

this. But you all have to try.

My today’s lecture is different/outstanding (laughs). But

only one message – do not be corrupt and do not help

corrupt. Thanks to you that you liked my lecture.

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