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    KINH T-KHEO NA-TINCn Long i Tng Kinh Quyn 108, trang 706-753

    Thin Nht phng dch v tm hiuNgunwww.thuvienhoasen.org

    Chuyn sang ebook 29-6-2009Ngi thc hin : Nam Thin [email protected] Audio Ti Website http://www.phatphaponline.org

    Mc LcNi-dung tp sch ny gm c:1.- Ti sao ti li phng-dch ''Kinh Na-Tin''?

    2.- Xut-x ca quyn ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh''.3.- Ni-dung c b-cc c phn hi ''lng-lo''.4.- Vin ngc qu th nht trong b Lun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh''5.- Vin ngc qu th hai trong b Lun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh''.6.- Nhn nhn thy ''hn ngc n'' trong li p ca T-kheo Na-Tin v vn- Ti-sanh.7.- Li ni ngn vng ca Ngi X-li-pht.8.- B Lun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh'' gip ta n li Gio-l vi n ci hm-tiu!A.- Bn Phng-dchQuyn Thng

    001.- c Pht vo rng tng.002.- Tng-vng vo rng tng gp c Pht.

    003.- Tng-vng n cha nghe Kinh004.- Tin-kip ca t-kheo Na-Tin v vua Di-Lan005.- Na-Tin xut-gia cu o vi Lu-Hn.006.- Na-Tin n cha Ho-Thin-T.007.- Na-Tin b S Ca-Duy-Vit trc-xut, lin i vo rng n-tu v c qu-v A-la-hn.008.- Na-Tin i hnh-o trong dn-gian.009.- Vua Di-Lan cai-tr nc X-Kit.010.- Vua Di-Lan hi b tu-s D-Ho-La.011.- Vua Di-Lan thnh Na-Tin.012.- Vua Di-Lan va gp Na-Tin.

    013.- Ai l Na-Tin? Xe l g? Ngi l g?014.- Thi- ng-n khi tho-lun.015.- Cu hi rt kh: chng nghe hi, m c p ri chng?016.- Thnh Na-Tin, mi thm bao-nhiu sa-mn017.- Dc ng, Na-Tin khai-ng cho Trim.018.- Bn v iu tinh-yu: ti sao lm sa-mn?019.- Ti sao phi sanh tr li? Tr-hu gip c g?020.- Thin l g? Thnh-tn l g?

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    021.- Nm iu c l nhng g?022.- Tinh-tn l lm sao?023.- Hiu-thun y l tun theo 37 Phm tr o.024.- Th no l bn s dng- (= t nim-x)?025.- Th no l bn s on-?

    026.- Th no l bn nim thn-tc?027.- Nm cn l nhng g?028.- Nm lc gm c nhng g?029.- Th no l by gic-?030.- Tm loi o-hnh (Bt chnh-o) l nhng g?031.- Ly Bt-Chnh-o lm cn-bn tu-hnh.032.- Tinh-tn l g?033.- Nim iu thin l phi lm sao?034.- Th no gi l nht-tm?

    035.- Tr-hu l nh th no?036.- Cc loi Kinh u dy iu thin nhm vo vic tn-dit cc iu c .

    037.- Ngi ti-sanh li th dng thn c, hay l c thn mi?038.- Ngi ht ti-sanh c bit mnh chng sanh li i sau hay khng?039.- Kh-nng ca Tr-hu ra sao?040.- Nm iu thin l nhng g?041.- V sao bc c-o cn sng li phi chu kh?

    Quyn Trung042.- Ba loi cm-th: vui, kh, chng vui chng kh.043.- Khi cht ri, ai sanh tr li?044.- Vua hi, Na-Tin c sanh tr li na khng?045.- Danh-Thn ngha l g?046.- Thi-gian.047.- Thi-gian cng vi Danh-Thn trin-chuyn.048.- ''Ngi c gc'' ngha l g?049.- Ci ''gc sanh-t'' l g?050.- Th-gian chng h c vic t-nhin m sanh ra051.- ''Ci g'' l ''Ngi''?052.- Mt v tm cng thy.053.- Gic-quan v tm phi-hip nhau .054.- Vui-sng ngha l g?055.- Gic-tri l g?056.- S-nim l g?057.- Th no ni-ng?058.- Cc tm-nim phi-hip nhau ri chng tch ra ring t mn c.059.- V ca mui .060.- Nm gic-quan .061.- Ti sao c s bt-bnh-ng gia loi ngi?062.- Phi lm iu lnh t trc .063.- ''Lc ring'' phi chng l ''Nghip-lc''?064.- Bn i (bn nguyn-t) nng vo nhau .

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    065.- Nit-bn l vt qua chng tr li.066.- Dc o Nit-bn .067.- Du cha c Nit-bn, cng c th bit Nit-bn l vui-sng .068.- Chng tng thy Pht, u c ngha l chng h c c Pht .

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    069.- Chng ai thng ni c Pht.070.- Khi ti-sanh, con ngi th thn mi.071.- Thn mi mang theo nghip ca thn c.072.- Ch lm thin-c trc, nay vo u?073.- Ngi phi ti-sanh, t bit iu .074.- C Nit-bn chng?075.- Sa-mn gi-gn thn, ch chng mn-thng thn.076.- Thn-tng trang-nghim ca c Pht.077.- c Pht u phi l -t cu i-Phm-thin.078.- c Pht t bit ly Kinh-k v Gii-lut.079.- Khc cha m cht v khc khi nghe Kinh Pht.

    080.- Bc c o v k cha c o, khc nhau.081.- Tr-nh ca con ngi.082.- Mi su cch nh li vic c.083.- c Pht bit tt c, sao chng dy ht mt ln?084.- L lm c, bit nim Pht, cht khi sa a-ngc085.- Sa-mn hc o v mun thot mi kh v sau.086.- Bc La-hn bay ln Tri nhanh nh dui cnh tay087.- Cht cng lc th n ni ti-sanh cng mt lc.088.- Dng by vic hc bit o.089.- L lm iu c, bit hi-ci, ti gim i dn.090.- Ngi tr, k ngu cng lm c ai nng ti hn?091.- Sc thn-tc.092.- C th ngng hi th ra vo chng?093.- Bin v nc bin.094.- T-duy n cc s-vic cao-thm.095.-Tinh-thn, Tr-hu v T-nhin.096.- Phn-tch k thn-tm ra, l v-ng chng?097.- Lun-bn Gio-Php, Vng v Na-Tin u vui .

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    C.- Phn Tm hiu Ngha 098.- Xut-x ca quyn T-kheo Na-Tin.099.- B-cc quyn T-kheo Na-Tin .100.- Tm-lc v Tin kip ca Na-Tin v Di-Lan .101.- Na-Tin c qu A-la-hn .102.- Sa-mn D-Ho-La b vua Di-Lan hi b .

    103.- Vua Di-Lan th-thch T-kheo Na-Tin .104.- Thi- trong khi bn-lun Gio-php.105.- Dc ng, Trim-Di-Li c Na-Tin khai-ng .106.- Sp-xp li cc loi cu hi v Gio-Php .

    I.- Vn-: i tu lm Sa-mn107.- Ti sao i tu lm sa-mn?108.- C my hng sa-mn?

    II.- Vn-: Ti-sanh Lun-hi109.- Vn- ti-sanh c nu ln nhiu ln trong quyn T-kheo Na-Tin .110.- Thc-mc ln: Cht ri, i v u?111.- C ''hin-tng'' ti-sanh hay khng?112.- Ci g mt, ci g cn, khi cht i?113.- Ti sao phi ti-sanh li? Ai phi ti-sanh li, cn ai chng phi ti-sanh na?114.- Ngi ht ti-sanh li c t-bit iu chng?115.- Vua hi Na-Tin c bit mnh cn phi ti-sanh na khng?116.- Khi ti-sanh, dng thn c hay c thn mi?117.- Ch lm thin, c nay i v u v thn mi c mang theo nghip c khng?118.- Th no l Danh-Sc trin-chuyn qua Thi-gian, tng theo cc nguyn-nhn dychuyn?119.- i-chiu lp-lun ca Na-Tin vi L Mi-hai Nhn-Duyn trong gio-l.120.- Ci ''gc sanh-t'' ca chng-sanh l g?121.- Hai ngi cht cng lc, c ti-sanh cng mt lc, hai ni xa gn khc nhaukhng?122.- Chng h c vic t-nhin m sanh ra .123.- Vn- ti-sanh Lun-hi: tin hay chng tin?

    III.- Vn-: Phn-bit cc iu thin, c .124.- Nm iu thin v nm iu c l nhng g?125.- Kinh Thp-Thin k mi iu thin c-th hn.126.- Phi lm iu thin t trc.127.- Trt gy iu c, nay phi lm g?

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    IV.- Vn-: Ba mi by Phm Tr o.128.- Ba mi by Phm Tr o gm c nhng g?129.- T nim-x: bn lnh-vc gi chnh-nim.131.- Phi chng Bn nim thn-tc l T Nh--tc?132.- Nm cn v nm lc l nhng g?

    133.- By Gic- hay l By Gic-chi?134.- Bt Chnh-o l nhng g?135.- Ly tm loi o-hnh (Bt Chnh-o) lm cn-bn tu-hnh.

    V.- Vn-: Tr - Hu .136.- Vn- Tr-Hu c t ra y nh th no?137.- Th no l Tr-Hu?138.- Tr-hu vi Bn-nng, v vi Nghip-lc .139.- Tr nh v cc cch nh li ca con ngi.

    VI.- Vn-: Cc loi cm-th .140.- Ba loi cm-th: lc-th, kh-th v x-th .

    VII.- Vn-: c o v ci Nit-bn.

    141.- Vn- c o trong quyn ''T-kheo Na-Tin''142.- Lm cch no hc bit o?143.- Bc c o khc k cha c o im no?144.- Bc c o c nhng kh-nng no?145.- Bc c o suy-t n cc iu cao-thm.146.- Nit-bn l g?147.- Sng n bao gi mi ''nhp Nit-bn''?

    VIII.- Vn-: Pht148.- 32 tng trang-nghim trn thn Pht.149.- Kh-nng siu-vit ca c Pht.

    IX.- Vn-: Con ngi v thuyt V-ng150.- Th-gian chng c ''ngi''.151.- T nhn-thc n -thc .152.- Gic-quan v tm phi-hip sanh ra sng-kh .153.- Cc tm-s phi-hip ri chng tch ra c .154.- Vai-tr ca cc gic-quan .155.- S bt-bnh-ng ni loi ngi .156.- ''Lc ring'' hay l chnh l Nghip-lc?157.- Nn c thi- no i vi thn-tm ny?158.- Thn-tm ny, khi phn-tch k ra, l v-ng.

    X.- Vn-: Cc cu hi linh-tinh v kin-thc tng-qut159.- Mui, nc bin v bin .160.- T-i l g?161.- Khc .162.- Tm-trng ca Vua Di-Lan v T-kheo Na-Tin sau cuc m-lun v o-php .

    D- Bn Phin-m NA-TIN T-KHEO KINHQuyn ThngQuyn TrungQuyn H

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    Ni-dung tp sch ny gm c:

    A.- Bn Phng-dch t chnh-vn trong i-Tng, cn thiu tn tc-gi ch

    Phn v dch-gi ch Hn;B.- Phn Tm hiu Ngha Ch: t-ng Pht-hc c tra T-in v gii-thch gn, theo th-t A, B, C;C.- Phn Tm hiu Ngha : cc cu vn-p xp li thnh 10 vn-: 9 vgio-l, 1 v linh-tinh.D.- Bn Phin-m Hn-Vit

    Thn-knh tng Qu-V o-hu T-nh T-Quang v Thin-vin Linh-Sn,

    nh cc bui tra ni chuyn o vo dp cui tun,Thin-Nht

    Hunh-Hu-Hng

    Vi cm-ngh v Kinh T-kheo Na-TinBi Tham-lun thuyt-trnh ti T-nh T-Quang, Montreal, Canada

    Kho Nghin-Tu An-CThng By 2005

    1.- Ti sao ti li phng-dch ''Kinh Na-Tin''?Quyn ''Na-Tin T-kheo Kinh'' l mt b Lun ghi bng ting Pali, rt nidanh, c phin-dch ra nhiu th ting: ting Hn, ting Vit, ting Min,ting Thi, ting Tch-lan, ting Anh, ting Php, v.v. Ti Vit-Nam, ccc bn dch ca cc C-s on-Trung-Cn, Cao-Hu-nh, v ca Ha-Thng Gii-Nghim, rt ph-bin. Ti sao Thin Nht cn ''o-bng''mang ra dch na?

    1.- Thin Nht hc Kinh k Pht xut-x t Hn-Tng, nn ch bit c v

    tm hiu cc bn Kinh k c dch ra ting Vit ca cc bc i-s Vit-Nam. Chng phi cc Kinh sch ch Anh, ch Php qu kh-khn, nhngkhi tm hiu v chng, Thin Nht cm thy chng ''hi xa l'' i vi ngiVit c sc hc trung-bnh, tu theo ng-li ca ng-b li. Nh trongHn-tng dng hai ch H v Lc ch hai thin-chi ca S-Thin, cc schAnh-ng dch ra l Joy, Happlness, Bliss... ; trong khi ting Vitthun-ty ca ta li c hai ch Mng v Vui, rt d hiu m m-t rt r-

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    rng tm-trng ca thin-gi khi sp bc vo nh-tm: Mng th thn cnang xc-ng, tm cn vng-ng. Vui th khi ni mng lng-du, tm-lng-lng, nh-nhng. Sao ta li b qun chng dng nhng ting Vitthng-thng y din-t hai thin-chi , mt cch gin-d v rt chnh-xc? Chnh v l m Thin Nht mo-mui em bn vn Hn-tng

    phng-dch ra ting Vit thng-thng ngy nay, trc cho mnh tm hiuv hc-hi bng ting Vit, sau cng c th gip c phn no li-ch chocc bn o cng tu.

    2.- Mi cui tun vo cha ly Pht nghe kinh, nhn ln cc t king sphng-hng lp-lp cc b Kinh ch Hn trong i-Tng, Thin Nht chngkhi bi-ngi ngh n thn-phn dt-nt ca mnh cn cha dm m mtquyn no ra c, v l vn-ling ch Hn ca mnh qu t-oi, hiu c mtch l kh, ni chi n ngha-l cao-siu, huyn-diu c ''gi-ghm k''

    trong cc dng ch m con mt tht mnh nhn thy qu b-him! Cc bKinh c Vit-dch cng chng d chi m hiu cho tn-tng, v l cnnhan-nhn cc danh-t Phn-ng c phin-m ra Hn-vn, c l cn khnghe hn ch Pali chnh gc. Ho-hon lm mi thy ni vi quyn, sau

    phn dch-thut v cc-ch, c nm ba trang him-hoi pha sau, gii-thch vn-tt -ngha cao-su li ch Pht v B-tt m li cho con ngtu-tp. Ngi hc Pht, vi thnh-tm mong c gic-ng v gii-thot,kh m tm thy mt quyn Kinh vi y- li gii-thch bng ngn-tthng-thng, cng s phn-tch r-rng cc im chnh-yu cn lu-tm, vng lng bc i, t bc mt, trn con ng hc-hi gio-l nhPht. Ni tm li, cn cha thy c nhiu kinh-sch c son di hnh-thc gio-khoa-th, cho mt ngi bp-b mi bit hc Pht nh Thin

    Nht c th dng lm quyn sch gi u ging m hc Kinh hc K.

    Nhn tm thy trong Hn-Tng bn c-vn dch t ch Phn, b LunMilinda panha, nhan l ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh'', thiu tn dch-gi, csao-lc li t thi ng-Tn bn Tu (khong th-k th 5), Thin Nht mimo-mui em ra ''phng-dch'' thnh ting Vit thng-thng ngy nay.Mc-ch ch l c mt bn Vit-vn m hc n li gio-l, v ni-dung

    b Lun ny nu ra gn trm cu thc-mc, nghi-ng, ca vua Milinda (Di-Lan) cng vi li gii-thch kh r-rng v y- ca T-kheo Nagasena(Na-Tin) v Gio-php ca c Pht. Trong khi phng-dch, Thin Nhtnhn thy vi t-ng chuyn-mn v Pht-hc trong bn dch Hn-vn htcn thch-hp vi cc thut-ng ngy nay, nh Ba-mi-by Phm Kinhthay v ni Ba-mi-by Phm Tr-o, nh Hiu-thun thay v Gii-hnh,nh Danh-Thn thay v Danh-Sc, nh Lc ring thay v Nghip-lc, v.v.

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    nn Thin Nht mun -ngh thay-th bng cc danh-t ang hin-hnh,nhng chng dm t-tin sa li trong phn phng-dch theo Hn-vn, mch xin ghi li sau, ni phn Tm hiu Ngha Ch. V nhn , c chp lihn hai mi trang li gii-thch vn-tt cc ch kh, sp-xp theo th-t A,B, C, cc bn tr no mun dng n tp sch nh y, khi phi mt cngtra thm T-in.

    Li na, cc cu hi thc-mc ca vua Di-Lan thng l ty-hng, ngheging n u th hi n y, chng theo mt -mc nht-nh no, lithm c nhc ti nhc lui nhiu ln lm ch khc nhau, nn Thin Nht,khi tm hiu v -ngha gio-l trong quyn Lun ny, thy nn sp xp licc cu hi ra mi vn-, chn thuc v gio-l v mt v cc cu hilinh-tinh c lin-quan n kin-thc tng-qut. Khi sp-xp cc cu hi cavua Di-Lan li, ng theo th-t cc vn- gio-l, Thin Nht c ghi li

    trong phn Tm hiu Ngha Y ca mnh, cc im bt-ng -kin vi v T-kheo li-lc, chng phi l dm khoe mnh c ''bit cht nh'' v gio-l,m chnh l gi ln c-hi cho cc bn tr, em t li vn- vi cc vThy dy o ca mnh, hu c c li gii-p thch-ng (v nh lm ncho Thin Nht bit vi, hc hi thm).

    2.- Xut-x ca quyn ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh''.

    B Lun Milinda panha c ghi li bng ting Phn, tc-gi l ai, hin cncha c cc hc-gi v Pht-hc trn th-gii xc-nh r. Bc-Tng cho

    rng B-tt Long-Th (Nagarjuna) sng-tc quyn ny, v Ngi munmn tn ca Na-Tin (Nagasena) i-p v Gio-php vi vuaMnandre m Ngi m-ch l Di-Lan (bn dch ca i-c-s on-Trung-Cn gi l Di-Lan-). Cn Ha-thng Gii-Nghim, nguyn Tng-ThngGio-hi Pht-gio Nguyn-thy Vit-nam, ghi tn tc-gi l NgiPitakaculbhaya, gc ngi Trung-n.

    Quyn Milinda panha c gi l Kinh, v c kt-tp trong h Pali niTiu-B-Kinh (Khuddaka Nikaya). Bn dch Hn-vn ''Na-Tin T-KheoKinh'' c ghi trong Hn-Tng, Cn-Long i-Tang Kinh, quyn s 108,cc trang t 706 n 753. ng ra l mt b Lun c mt v i-strc-tc, s d c tn-vinh l Kinh, c l v ni-dung cao-su ta nh lica ch Pht hay B-tt.

    Cc bn thanh-nin nghin-cu v Pht-hc c th i hi thm v tiu-sca tc-gi, cng l-do no khin tc-gi sng-tc nn b Lun ny. i

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    hi ny rt chnh-ng khi ta cn nghin-cu k-lng mt vn- trit-hchay vn-chng. Nhng Thin Nht chng thy c my-may thc-mc chiv cc chi-tit quan-trng . Ti sao? V khi hc Kinh-k, Thin Nht chcn bit l mt bn Kinh c ghi trong i-Tng, iu quan-trng l tmhiu -ngha v li dy tu-tp, cn vic nghin-cu ng theo cc phng-

    php khoa-hc ca nh kho-c, th xin knh-cn ch s chng-minh chnh-xc vi y- bng-c ca cc bc i-tr-thc. Li na, mnh c KinhPht ch cn hiu v bit ng-dng li dy tu-tp v ng tu ca mnh, hnl thc-mc v danh-xng, tiu-s, v.v..., th-d nh trong Tm-Kinh Bt-

    Nh c ni n B-tt Qun-T-Ti, c cc v i-s gii-thch l tnkhc ca B-tt Qun-Th-m, mnh cn chi thc-mc l ng hay sai; cnch ng thc-mc l mnh c theo Kinh tu-tp tnh Khng cha, vnay ti mc no ri. Do , Thin Nht -ngh nn xem b Lun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh'' do mt bc c-c no sng-tc vo mt thi xa-

    xa, vy thi!

    3.- Ni-dung c b-cc c phn hi ''lng-lo''.

    B ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh'' trong Hn-Tng c chia ra lm ba quyn:Thng, Trung, H, nhng xt theo -ngha, li vn, th chng thy c s

    phn-bit r-rng gia ba quyn , v l cc cu hi quyn Thng lic nhc li quyn Trung v quyn H; cng nh hai quyn sau, vnthy cn bn li cc vn- c tho-lun quyn trc. S d c strng-ip l v cc cu hi ca vua Di-Lan phn ln l ty-hng, nhn

    nghe ging mt on ri lin nu ln thc-mc, khin cho mch kinh-vn...hi ''lng-lo''.

    V Ni-dung, b Lun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo'' c th tm chia ra lm ba phn:

    1.- Tin-kip ca T-kheo Na-Tin v ca vua Di-Lan;2.- Cc cu vn-p gia nh Vua v v T-kheo li-lc;3.- Tm-trng ca Vua Di-Lan v T-kheo Na-Tin sau cuc m-lun l-thv gio-l.

    Ring phn vn-p, trong Hn-tng c ghi vo khong mt trm cu hi;ni Tng Pali, s cu hi thay i ln xung ty vo ni xut-bn, khonghn hai trm su mi cu. iu ny cho thy bn nguyn-tc bng chPhn c th b thm bt, thay i, ty theo thi-gian v ni chn xut-bn

    b Lun.

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    tin vic nghin-cu, Thin Nht sp-xp li, trong Phn Tm hiuNgha Y ca mnh, thnh mi vn-: chn v gio-l, v mt v cc kin-thc tng-qut linh-tinh. V tun theo th-t trong bn nguyn-tc khi cccu hi c vua Di-Lan ln-lt nu ln, nn chn vn- gio-l c ghichp li nh sau:

    1.- Ti sao i tu lm Sa-mn?2.- S ti-sanh, nghip-lc v thuyt Lun-hi;3.- S phn-bit cc iu thin v c;4.- 37 Phm tr-o;5.- Tr-hu;6.- Cc loi cm-th;7.- S c o v ci Nit-bn;8.- c Pht;

    9.- Con ''ngi'' v thuyt v-ng.

    L ra, nu nhn chung ton-b t-tng din-t trong b Lun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh'', ta s thy -tng ct-cn l: Ti sao i tu lm Sa-mn? lv mun c gic-ng v gii-thot. Gic-ng v iu g? Gic-ng v lsng-cht v thn-phn ca con ngi. Gii-thot khi iu g? Gii-thotkhi cnh Kh trong vng Lun-hi c an-nhin, t-ti trong ci Nit-

    bn.

    khai-trin -tng ct-cn ni trn, tc-gi b Lun ln-lut -cp n

    nghip-lc dn-dt chng-sanh theo su no ca vng Lun-hi; ri chcho ta thy li ph v vng ln-qun sanh-t , bng cch (a) bit phn-bitu thin, iu c; (b)tun theo 37 Phm Tr-o; (c) pht-trin Tr-hu tiu-dit n tn gc-r cc tr-ngi l phin-no-chng v s-tri-chng. tn-dit ht cc tr-ngi ln-lao , tc-gi phn-tch t-m s pht-khi ca cc cm-th ni thn-tm thng a n cc phin-no-chng,v vch r s c-chp vo cc t-kin, a ti cc s-tri-chng, nht lng-kin, mt t-kin trm-trng hn c. i-tr li vi ng-kin, tc-gi nhiu ln chng-minh rng trong nm un kt-t li thnh thn-tm ny

    chng c ''ci chi'' thng-hng, chng thy ra c ''con ngi'' no nglm ch c: l thuyt v-ng trong Pht-hc. V sau cng, h theo ngcon ng tu-tp y, hnh-gi s c o, chng c Nit-bn v-sanh van-tnh, theo nh gng ca c Pht i trc.

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    4.- Vin ngc qu th nht trong b Lun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh''

    i su vo ni-dung ca b Lun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh'' ta tm thy khnhiu vin ngc qu, chng trch no b Lun c tn-vinh l ''Kinh'' vc s hm-m ca cc hng tr-thc trn khp th-gii t xa n nay.Vin ngc u-tin l ''Vua Di-Lan th-thch T-kheo Na-Tin hai ln'', nhvy:

    Ln th nht:

    Ngay ti bui s-kin, sau cc li thm hi x-giao, vua Di-Lan th-thchT-kheo Na-Tin, bng mt cu hi kh:

    - Na-Tin! Ai l Na-Tin? u l Na-Tin chng?- u chng phi l Na-Tin.- Mt, tai, mi, ming l Na-Tin chng?- Mt, tai, mi, ming chng phi l Na-Tin.... ... ...- Vy ch ch no l Na-Tin?

    Na-Tin hi li Vng:- Xe kia, ch no l xe? Trc xe c phi l xe chng?- Trc xe chng phi l xe.- Vnh bnh xe c phi l xe chng?- Vnh bnh xe chng phi l xe.

    ... ... ...- Vy th ci g l xe?

    Vng im lng chng tr li c.

    Na-Tin lin ni:

    - Kinh Pht c ni n, hip-t cc b-phn (...) li, l nguyn-nhn cc chic xe. Con ngi cng li nh vy, h hip-t u mt, tai, mi,ming... chung li th thnh con ngi.

    Vng khen: Lnh thay! Lnh thay!

    Ln th hai:

    Vng ni:

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    - Ta c iu mun hi.- Xin i-Vng c hi.- Ta hi xong.- Ti cng p xong.- p nhng g u?- i-Vng hi ti nhng g u?

    Vng ni:

    - Ta chng c ch hi, Na-Tin cng chng c ch p...

    Gi y ta th hi: u l ch th-thch? u l vin ngc qu?

    Trc nht l cu hi: ''Ai l Na-Tin?'' Ngha su-kn ca cu hi l:Vy ch ci g mi tht l Na-Tin? Bn-cht ca con ngi l g? Ni thn-tm con ngi, c ci g l ci Ta, l bn-ng khng? Hoc ni theo nhngngi cn m-tn, trong thn-tm ny, c ci linh-hn tn-ti mi qua thi-gian chng?

    Cc cu tr li ca Na-Tin, cng li kt-lun trch-dn trong Kinh Pht uqui-hng v mt vn- cn-bn ca Gio-l nh Pht: l v-ng, trongthn-tm con ngi chng h c ci Ta, chng h c ci bn-ng. Tuy Na-Tin chng ni r ra, nhng ta bit thn-tm con ngi ch l s tp-hp canm un: sc-un l phn vt-cht, gi l thn, v bn un kia, th, tng,

    hnh, thc-un thuc v phn tinh-thn, tc l tm. Chng h thy trongthn-tm ny, u l ng ch gi l Ta, u l linh-hn, gi l phn hn caTa c, ch c cc un tp-hp li m thi. l l-l rt vng-chc chng-minh Chn-l v-ng trong Pht-hc.

    Na-Tin vt qua d-dng ch Vua th-thch bng cch hi ngc li:''Xe l g? Ci g trong xe l xe?'' Nh Vua chng tr li c, nh th

    Na-Tin thng. Rt tic l nh Vua chng hi thm cc chi-tit v l v-ng na, chng ta c dp hc-hi v cch-thc Na-Tin gii-p ccmi nghi-ng cn st li v Chn-l quan-trng ny. Chn-l v-ng l

    chn-l kh hiu, kh chng nht trong ba Chn-l: V-thng, Kh, V-ng.

    Nhng nh Vua li a thm mt cu hi rt kh, nu nhng ai m l-qu,chng nhanh-tr nh Na-Tin, th lin lt vo cm-by ngay. Hi m chngnu ra cu hi l hi lm sao? p m chng ni ra li, l p cch no?Vua v Na-Tin ang so gm tr-hu vi nhau y!

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    Nh Vua mun hi Na-Tin m chng nu cu hi ra, tc l nh Vua munhi g y? Hai ng ang bn-lun v gio-php, th th cu nh Vua munhi l cu hi thuc v Php (Dharma, Gio-Php) ch g. Ti sao Vuachng ni ra l cu hi v Php? Bi l-l rt cao-siu l Php vnKhng, tc l Php vn rng-rang, chng cha ng g, chng dnh-mc g,chng c hnh-tng g, th lm sao din-t ra bng li ni c. Nu c nira cu hi v Php, tc l mc-nhin ph-nhn tnh-cht rng-rang ca Phpri, u nu ln c ch Php-khng trong gio-l, li cn khoc thm choPhp mt hnh-tng ngn-t na.

    Na-Tin qu l nhanh-tr, bit ngay ch n- ca nh Vua, nn mi p l'' p xong'', m chng nu r l p nhng g. Nu Na-Tin v-tnh hili nh Vua, Vua va ni '' hi ri'' l hi nhng g u? th Na-Tin linri ngay vo cm-by ca Vua, ch i mt cu hi v Php bng ngn-t.

    Php vn l Khng sao din ra bng hnh-tng ca li ni hi thnh cuhi, ho ra cn cha hiu c im gio-l rt quan-trng ca nh Pht haysao?

    Tr li cu hi u-tin: ''Ai l Na-Tin?'', -ngha su-xa ca cu hi ny lvn- Ng-khng trong Gio-l Nam-Tng. Cu hi th-thch th nh canh Vua: ''Ta c iu mun hi'' c lin-quan n vn- Php-khng trongGio-l Bc-Tng. C hai ln th-thch kh-khn ny u c Na-Tinvt qua mt cch xut-sc: dng gy ng m p lng ng. Nhng cn rtxut-sc hn na l tc-gi b Lun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh'' ny, trnh-

    by hai vn- cc-k t-nh di hnh-thc vn-p ht sc n-gin, dhiu v y hng-th!

    l vin ngc qu th nht c tm thy v nay xin em dng-hin lnqu V. Cn nhiu vin ngc qu khc na, Thin Nht e-ngi sc hc camnh cha ti mc tm thy ra ht.

    5.- Vin ngc qu th hai trong b Lun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh''.

    Vin ngc ny lin-quan n Thi- ng-n trong khi bn-lun v Gio-Php. Xin chp li on vn quan-trng sau y trong b Lun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh'' ni n thi- ng-n y:

    Vng hi Na-Tin:

    - S c th cng Ta bn-lun v cc Kinh kh chng?- Nu Vua dng tr-hu hi ti, th c th cng nhau bn-lun. Nu Vua

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    dng li vng-gi kiu-qu, th chng th cng Vua bn-lun c.- Tr-hu c bao nhiu loi?- Bc tr-gi, khi m-lun, ht sc vn hi cng nhau, gii r cng nhau, lini cao, li ni thp, li ni chnh-trc, li ni bt-chnh; c thng, c thuat mnh bit ly phi tri, l tr-hu ti-thng, chng cn cht gin-hn.Bc tr-gi l nh th .- Li ni vng-gi c bao nhiu loi?- Li ni vng-gi t phng theo cm-ngh ca mnh, h c ch tri lchng nh Vua, tc thi Vua bt ti nng, pht git i. Nh th l lini bc vng-gi.

    Vng lin ni rng:

    - Nguyn dng li ni ca bc tr-gi, chng dng li ni ca vng-gi,

    chng gi -ngh vng-gi trong li mnh ni, ch nn ni theo nh li -t ca ch Sa-mn, nh li cc v u-b-tc. Nn theo li ca ch Sa-mnm khin cho lng mnh chng mang s-hi, chnh-tm cng c khai-ng.

    Na-Tin lin tht ln rng:

    - Tht lnh thay!

    S phn-bit ca Na-Tin gia li ni ca bc tr-gi v li ni ca bc

    vng-gi, a n thi- ng-n cho nhng ai tham-d mt cuc tranh-lun v Gio-Php. Li ni ngay-thng, chn-chnh, hng v Chn-l, cthua, c thng, t mnh mnh bit ly phi-tri, du tht-bi cng chng chtgin-hn, tri-ngc hn vi thi- ca k bng-bnh, ngoan-c, bit rmi-mi i-phng hu-l m vn c cng-cu, phi chng l v t-i cn qu su-m, ci Ng cn to-tng nh ... ci b! Li ni kiu-qu,

    phng theo cm-ngh ca ring mnh, gp ch chng va th hung-hngchng-i, bo-v cc thnh-kin c-chp, l thi- ca k t-caotrong mt pht ''bc-ng'' di-kh b qua mt c-hi hng li-lc cn gn vi Chn-l m i-phng mang ti cho mnh.

    c khim-cung ca vua Di-Lan c biu-l ra rt r-rng trong li nisau y, tht ng cho ta khm-phc:

    - Nguyn dng li ni ca bc tr-gi, (...) chng gi -ngh vng-gi trongli mnh ni...

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    Vin ngc qu th hai ca b Lun chnh l nm ngay ti y.

    *

    Khi suy-gm v on vn ''qu-gi'' trn y thut li i-p gia Na-Tin

    v vua Di-Lan, Thin Nht c thm vi cm-ngh th-thin ca mnh, vthi- chn-chnh ti cc bui ni chuyn o:

    1.- Kinh-sch Pht-hc thng nhc n li c Pht dy l phi trnh cccuc h-lun. Th no l h-lun? H l vui-a. Lun l bn-ci. Thngthy, tip theo cc bui tr d tu hu, nhiu ngi t nhn l ''bc tr-thchiu o'' ngi nhm-nhi tch tr, bn-lun nhau vi li-l dao to ba lnm -ngha li rng-tuch, ph-bnh v i-s ny, khen ngi v thin-gikia, t ng sang Ty, ht kim n c, l ... bn lun chi cho vui, vy

    thi, ch no phi i tm Chn-L rt ly kinh-nghim tu-tp. Th chonn, c Pht mi gi l h-lun v dy ta cn phi trnh.

    2.- Kinh-sch Pht-hc phn-bit hai loi Chn-L: (1) s-tht th-gian, cth ng ni ny, vo lc ny, m cng c th chng hp vi ch kia, vomt thi khc, cho nn gi l tc-, ngha l s-tht tng-i trong isng th-tc; (2) s-tht ng mun i v khp mi ni, a con ngi tu-hnh n ni gic-ng v gii-thot, v th cho nn mi gi l chn-,ngha l Chn-L tuyt-i ca lnh-vc xut-th-gian. Bi th ngi hiu-

    bit bao gi cng ngh l mnh cha h nm vng c Chn-, nn phi

    gi thi- khim-ho, chng dm liu-lnh bo rng iu mnh ni y ls-tht duy-nht v ti-thng. Tri li, tm-trng k y nn m rng ra nnhn tm-thi li-l ca ngi i-thoi, hn vi lng mnh s truy-cuthm ch ng cng sai, hu rt ly kinh-nghim tu-tp cho bn-thn.

    3.- Thi- thch-nghi khi lun-bn v Gio-l l phi ht sc thnh-khntrong t-tng v li ni:

    a.- V pha ngi tha hi, v-th ca ngi i hc o, cn phi gi l-vi ngi m mnh tha-thnh. Thi- ng-n l nu ra cc cu hi cho

    r-rng, ch-trng n ch mnh cn nghi-ng cha c gii r. V khinghe li ging-gii, phi lng lng, ch-tm, chng vi chp-nhn m cngchng bi-bc ngay, nu c ch cha kp hiu, th xin c minh-chngthm bng cc th-d c-th trong i sng hng ngy.

    b.- V phn ngi c hi, chng bao gi khi ln trong lng mnh mtcht -ngh t-ho cn-con no rng mnh bit o hn ngi kia, nu

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    chng ng lm Thy th cng l ngi i trc. V khi ging-gii, phi tytheo cn-c ca ngi nghe m dng li-l gin-d, r-rng, d hiu, kmtheo cc th-d thc-t.

    4.- Trong mt cuc tho-lun v cc vn- o-gio, c hai iu m k hiv ngi p, cn nn trnh, th mi xng-danh l mt cuc tho-lun ng-n v hu-ch:

    a.- V pha ngi hi, ch bao gi c n- mun dn k i-thoi vo ... ngb. Trn i-ht tm-linh, c nhiu vn- m chnh c Pht gi l bt-kh t-ngh, ngha l chng th ngh bn rt-ro c vi li-l ca th-gian.ng i hi c cho c nhng bng-c tht c-th, tai nghe mt thy, cthc-nghim ca khoa-hc chng-minh ri mi chp-nhn. iu mnh chngtin c, trong khung-cnh thi-gian v khng-gian hin-ti, cha chc hn

    l chng th no c c, bit u li l mt s-tht ti mt cnh-giikhc, vo mt thi khc. Th cho nn, thi- khoa-hc chn-chnh l phit ra d-dt, ch vi bc-b hon-ton m cha xt k li kh-nng thng-hiu ca tr-c con ngi (v tr-c ca mnh na).

    b.- V pha ngi ng vai-tr hng-dn, tng cng chng nn a ra''ti-hu-th'': ''Ti ni nh th, c tin th tu theo, cn chng tin, th c gily quan-nim ca mnh vy!'' Ngi tha hi thnh-tm mun c giich cn hoi-nghi, nghe cu ni rt chn-nn, v o-tm v th m li-st.

    Li na, cng ng nn dng lun cu ni qu d-dng ny: ''Ti ni th,o-hu c c i, tng i, thi-hnh theo i, ri s c ngy hiu r c -ngha su-xa m o-hu mun hi.'' Ngi hi ang ch i mt vi cukhuyn thc-tin, i li ging-gii gn-gng v -ngha trong on Kinh,cu k hin cn thc-mc m-c trong bng, lm sao m tip-tc c-tngthm c na, nu ch h-nghi cn cha c gii-to. Tng chng cchi l ng h-thn khi chnh mnh nhn thy mnh cn cha li-l

    phn-tch iu ang c hi, sao li chng thnh-tht nhn-nhn s thiu-st ca mnh v mi ngi hi tm n mt bc cao-minh no khc?

    5.- V trong mi trng-hp, ch chng c l ch trong cc dp tho-lun mthi, lun lun nn gi thi- ci-m, n nhn mi l-l, -- tin hay chngchu tin, l quyn t-do t-tng ring bn trong ca mnh -- hy lngnghe cho ngi i-thoi c c-hi trnh-by lp-trng. Thi- ng

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    trch nht l c-chp, m gi kh-kh cc -kin, cc cm-ngh c-nhn, vc cc thnh-kin.

    6.- Nhn nhn thy ''hn ngc n'' trong li p ca T-kheo Na-Tin vvn- Ti-sanh.

    Vn- Ti-sanh trong vng Lun-hi c cu-xt rt di-dng trong bLun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh'', nhc i nhc li, di nhiu khi-cnh, ri-rc khp ba quyn Thng, Trung, H. C iu kh ngc-nhin l chngthy tc-gi b Lun bn n im mu-cht thng gy mi thc-mc lntrong hng cc thanh-nin nam-n tr tui c hp-th nn vn-minh khoa-hc vt-cht ngy nay: vic ti-sanh c tht hay chng c tht? Phi chng,tc-gi b Lun xem vic ti-sanh l mt hin-tng thin-nhin d-nhin,nh ma bo, sm st ca v-tr, nh cy-ci ga ci c tri, c ht, khi tn-

    t th mc ln cy khc sn-s bn cnh, ri chp-nhn v tin-tng ngtheo thuyt Lun-hi trong Gio-l: chng-sanh khi ht mng sng ny sti-sanh li ci i sau? C l v l-do , tc-gi b Lun khi ni n victi-sanh, bn ngay n cc kha-cnh nh: Ti sao phi ti-sanh? Ai phi ti-sanh li? Ai c gii-thot khi ti-sanh? Khi ti-sanh, c phi do thn-tmc m mang ly thn-tm mi khng?..., m chng h xt vic ti-sanh thtc hay khng.

    Ta hy tm gt li cu hi mu-cht: ti-sanh c phi l mt hin-tng tht-s chc-chn xy ra khng?, v hy c qua li cht-vn ca vua Di-Lan vi

    T-kheo Na-Tin: ''Na-Tin c cn phi ti-sanh na khng?'' vi hi-vngtm thy ra ''hn ngc n'':

    (1) Vng li hi Na-Tin:

    - C ngi cht ri chng phi sanh li na chng?- C ngi phi sanh li, m cng c ngi chng phi sanh tr li- Ai cn phi sanh li v ai chng cn sanh li?- Ngi quyn-luyn nim n-i nhiu, lm s ham-mun, th sanh li isau; ngi dt sch s n-i, b ht mi ham-mun th i sau chng phisanh tr li ....

    (2) Vng li hi Na-Tin:

    - C ngi chng sanh li i sau khng, v c t bit c vic chngsanh li y chng?- D nhin, c ngi nh th, t bit mnh chng cn ti-sanh.

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    - Lm sao bit c?- Ngi y t bit mnh chng cn quyn-luyn n-i, chng cn ham-mun,chng c iu c, nh bit mnh chng cn phi sanh li na. Th-d nhngi nng-phu trng la, c nhiu thc, tr li v sau, sang nm anhchng trng la na, ch ly la d-tr ra n. Ngi nng-phu y c mongc la go mi chng?- Ngi nng-phu y chng mong c la mi.- Ti sao bit ngi y chng c la mi?- Ngi nng-phu y chng cy cy, chng trng la, th c ch mong cchi na.- Ngi c-o cng li nh th, t bit rng dt b n-i, sng-kh, chng cn tham-tm, do bit i sau chng sanh li.

    (3) Vng li hi Na-Tin:

    - Na-Tin nay c sanh tr li i sau khng?- Li i-Vng hi ti y, trc ti p ri. Nu nh ti cn c s lu-luyn v n-i, th i sau s sanh tr li; cn nu dt c s n-i, thchng sanh li na. ...

    Ba on vn ngn (1), (2) v (3) va c trch dn trn y, nm cch xanhau n c chc trang, ni hai quyn Thng v Trung ca b Lun. cli c b Lun nhiu ln, Thin Nht mi tm thy c mt im va kho,va qu, v gi l mt ''vin ngc n'' Chng bit tr th-thin ca Thin

    Nht c nhn lm chng?

    on (1) ni v: ti sao c ngi cn ti-sanh, c ngi chng phi ti-sanhna? on (2) bo rng: ngi c o t mnh bit r chng sanh livo i sau. on (3) ghi li p ca Na-Tin v cu Vua hi: Na-Tin nayc sanh tr li i sau khng? Mi on ri-rc chng cho ta thy cn- ca vua Di-Lan khi t ra cu hi: Na-Tin nay c ti-sanh na khng?

    Nhng nu c k li c ba on ta thy ni bt ln ''n-'' ca nh Vua khia ra mt cu hi nh th. n- g? Nh Vua mun v T-kheo xc-nhncho r-rng bng li ni, rng Na-Tin c o cha, bit chc cmnh chng cn phi ti sanh na? Nhng nh Vua ch nh-nhng hi: Na-Tin nay cn ti-sanh na khng?, tuy nh-nhng nhng thng-thn, v angch-i v tu-hnh mt cu tr li dt khot: C (c o) hay l Khng.

    T-kheo Na-Tin qu l ngi tinh-t khi p: Li i-Vng hi ti y,trc ti p ri. Nu nh ti cn lu-luyn n-i, th i sau s sanh tr

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    li; cn nu dt c s n-i, th ti chng sanh li na... Li p c v''phn hai'' chng ni ''C'' m cng chng bo ''Khng''. Th th ''kho'' ch no u, khi ni ... lng-l nh th? Tha, rt kho, v kho ti ch''Nu''. Mnh tu c o t mnh mnh bit, c ai chng cho mnh l mnh c o? Mnh dt c s n-i, t mnh mnh bit, c ai chng chomnh vic dt b s n-i ? Mnh qu-quyt ni ra mnh c o v mnh chng c v-sanh, ly chi lm bng-c? V nht l ni ra mnh co, phi chng l mt s khoe-khoang, m li cn e k khc nghlm mnh ni ra c Vua trng-vng ri cng-dng ''hu-h'' cho mnh.Cho nn vi ch ''Nu'', Na-Tin va trnh c s khoe-khang, li vakhi phi che-du s-tht.

    Th th, cn ''qu'' ch no? T-kheo Na-Tin, trc khi ra hnh o, tuchng o-qu A-la-hn ri, ti sao chng t ra cho vua bit, hoc thi-trin

    cc thn-thng c c cho vua tin? l hnh khim-nhng, vitm thanh-tnh hon-ton, trong lng chng h khi ln t-kiu, t-mn,ph-trng cng ngi s chng-c ca mnh. So vi thi mt-php ngynay, c bit bao k mo-danh tu-hnh ru-rao chng ngng mm cc o ny, qu n, v ngc xng l bc v-thng-s, l ng Pht-sng, cn cho bn - m-tn ngng-cung dng cc phng-tin qung-co rm-r nhng tr bun thn bn thnh theo ng li thng-mi, khincc bc chn-tu sng o phi au lng.

    Cu mong sao thi- khim-nhng kn-o ca T-kheo Na-Tin c cc

    hng Pht-t ly lm gng khin cho mi o gi trn c strong-sng.

    By gi, xin tr li vn- mu-cht: Ti-sanh l mt hin-tng c ththay chng c tht?

    Gi l ''hin-tng'' mt s-vic tht-s c tht, xy ra trong mt khung-cnh khng-gian v thi-gian. Vic ti-sanh, nu tht-s xy ra, phi tri qua

    ba giai-on: (1) lc cht, (2) s thay-i t trng-thi ca i sng c sangtrng-thi i sng mi, (3) lc sanh ra. Trong ba giai-on , ta ch bitc c hai: lc cht v lc sanh, cn s thay i, nu c, t trng-thi csang trng-thi mi, phi xy ra ti mt cnh-gii khc, trong khung-cnhthi-gian v khng-gian khc vi ci trn-th ny. Chnh v l ny, m khoa-hc hin-i vn cn cha c cu tr li dt-khot: vic ti-sanh c tht haychng c tht? Nh th, da theo lp-lun duy-l, vic ti-sanh nu tht sc tht hoc chng c tht, u phi c nguyn-nhn ca n.

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    Th gian chng h c mt s-vic no t-nhin t n m sanh ra: phi cnguyn-nhn ri mi sanh ra hu-qu. Xt cho cng k-l, vn- ti-sanhc tht hay chng c tht ch l mt vn- tin-tng m thi: hoc tin l c,hoc tin l chng c. Nhng mun vng tin, phi c nhng l-do chc-chnlm cn-bn cho nim tin : nh khi tin th tin bng mt nim tin; mkhi chng tin, chng chu tin, th thi- ny cng vn l mt nim tin, mtnim tin chc-chn cho rng, chng h c vic ti-sanh. Nhng ai theo khoa-hc vt-cht i hi cc bng-c c-th, mt c thy, tai c nghe mi chutin, th ta th hi, h a ra nhng l-l no vng-chc qu-quyt rngvic ti-sanh chng c tht, ngoi vic c mt mc thng tay bi-bc victi-sanh m chng chng-minh c s hu-l ca vic h chng-i vicc bng-c.

    V pha nhng ngi ang vng tin li Pht dy, ta thy r nim tin ca

    h da trn nhng l-l chng phi l thiu cn-bn:

    1.- Li tuyn-b minh-bch ca c Pht ti B- o-trng khi Ngi cngi-v Pht: vi thin-nhn-minh, Ngi nhn thy cc chng-sanh cht niy, sanh li ni kia. cn cha phi l vic ti-sanh c tht, ang xy ra,ti cnh-gii ny m chnh mt Ngi nhn thy c vi kh-nng siu-

    phm ca thin-nhn-minh sao?

    2.- L Mi hai Nhn-Duyn trong Gio-Php ca c Pht gii-thch r-rng nguyn-nhn ca vic ti-sanh, ngay ti cc Nhn-duyn u, thuc

    giai-on qu-kh: (1)V-minh duyn Hnh, (2) Hnh duyn Thc, (3)Thc duyn Danh-Sc.

    V-minh l g v do u m c? V-minh tc l s ngu-ti, m-m. Lc c-th sp la cuc sng, lng luyn-tic sanh ra s-hi, mong mun cuc sngc tip-tc mi, l v-minh, ham sng trong ci Lun-hi gnh micnh Kh trin-min, chng phi l s di-kh nng-n hay sao?

    V-minh duyn Hnh ngha l g? Cu ny c ngha: h v-minh khi ln,th Hnh c pht-ng.

    Hnh l g? y l danh-t Hn-Vit dng dch ch Phn Sankhra, viba -ngha chnh: (1) iu-kin gy ra s bin-i; (2) s-vt b iu-kin-ho, tc l cc s-vt b cc iu-kin xung quanh lm bin-i; (3) chnh s

    bin-i do cc iu-kin gy ra. Nh th, ch Hnh y tr cc php hu-vi, tc l cc s-vt phi chu thay i v cc iu-kin ca hon-cnh xungquanh. Cc php hu-vi , trong vic ti-sanh, l nhng php no? (php=

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    dharma/dhamma = s-s, vt-vt). l nh-hng ca nghip-thc do cchnh-ng c- ca thn, ca ming, v nht l ca , gy ra, cn tim-tng v c tng-tr trong tng-thc, tc l trong Thc A-li-da (Alaya).

    Do m ta c: Hnh duyn Thc, ngha l h Hnh khi ln th Thc cpht-ng.

    Thc l g? Thc y l nghip-thc va ni trn, tc l cc nh-hngca nhng hnh-vi c-, to nn nghip-qu, dn-dt chng-sanh i theo suno ca Lun-hi. Do m c: Thc duyn Danh-Sc, ngha l h nghip-thc chuyn-ng th Danh-Sc pht-sanh ra. Khi Danh-Sc sanh ra th victi-sanh c thnh-tu, vo thi-k hin-ti.

    Danh-Sc l g? Ch Danh-Sc l mt danh-t Hn-Vit dch ch Phn

    Nma-Rpa, ngha l: tinh-thn v vt-cht. Nh th, ngha l g? Khinghip-thc chuyn-ng, th phn tinh-thn, Danh, ca c-th i vo thai-nhi, do tinh cha huyt m kt thnh, tc l phn vt-cht, Sc, ca c-th. Vc hai phn tinh-thn v vt-cht cn phi-thai, cha c hon-b, nn migi l Danh-Sc, v thai-nhi cha tng-hnh y- cc b-phn sinh-l,cng nh cc kh-nng tm-l ca n cha c pht-trin sung-mn.

    Ni tm li, ba nhn-duyn u-tin ca L Nhn-Duyn nu ra, rt r-rng v rt y-, nguyn-nhn ca vic ti-sanh, m hu-qu l khin chochng-sanh c tri ln trin-min trong ci Lun-hi au-kh.

    Thin Nht s d ''di dng vn-t'' nh th, l v mun nu ra cho ccbn tr thy r-rng nim tin c ti-sanh c t trn hai cn-bn vngchc: (1) li tuyn-b ca c Pht nhn thy s ti-sanh; (2) ba nguyn-nhn dy chuyn: V-minh, Hnh, Thc a n hu-qu tt-yu l victi-sanh ra Danh-Sc. Cc bn tr cn hi kh tnh c th i-hi c cthin-nhn-minh nhn thy tn mt mnh, th Thin Nht xin tha, phitu-tp cho n mc gic-ng v gii-thot hon-ton nh c Pht mi ckh-nng siu-phm . Hoc cc bn y mun em ra ''thc-nghim'' ccnguyn-nhn: V-minh, Hnh, Thc, xem chng c mang n hu-qu lc vic ti-sanh xy ra hin-tin hay khng, theo nh kiu cc nh khoa-hc kim-chng trong cc phng th-nghim, th Thin Nht xin tha, ccnguyn-nhn c k trong L Mi hai Nhn-Duyn u l cc php hu-vi, v-hnh-tng, lm sao m ly em ra c, ''th-nghim'' nh ccha-cht?

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    Thin Nht t xem mnh l mt Pht-t, gi c Pht l ng T-Ph, thc l no mnh chng chu tin li ca ng Cha lnh, khi Ngi bo, chnh

    Ngi nhn thy cc chng-sanh cht ni y, sanh li ni kia.

    Lm con m chng chu tin li Cha, th cn tin ai y?

    *

    7.- Li ni ngn vng ca Ngi X-li-pht.

    Cui quyn Thng, b Lun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh'' c mt on vn ghili mt cu ng sn son thp vng:

    Vng li hi Na-Tin:

    - Nh ngi c o, chng phi sanh li i sau, c cn phi chu cnhkh na khng?- Hoc cn phi chu kh na, hoc chng cn phi kh na.- Th no l cn phi chu kh, l chng phi chu kh na?- Thn cn chu kh, tm- ht chu kh. S d thn cn phi chu kh l vtrong hin-ti thn cn l ngun-gc ca s kh; tm- s d ht kh l v dt b tt c cc iu c, chng cn ham-mun chi, cho nn chng phichu kh na.- Nu nh ngi c o chng th la thn kh ny, th l cha c c

    Nit-bn chng? Ngi c o chng cn n-i, m thn cn kh, du tm- an-n, th s c o lm g? Nu nh ngi c o thnh-cng, th v c g m cn lu li y?- Th-d nh trn cy, tri cn cha chn th chng vi hi, nn i cho chnmui. i-Vng c bit li ni ca i- c X-li-pht chng? Ngi X-li-pht lc cn sng c ni: ''Ti chng cu cht, ti cng chng cu sng,ti ch ch ng thi ra i th ra i.''

    Vua khen ngi: ''Lnh thay! Lnh thay!''

    Tm-tt:

    Vua Di-Lan c hai thc-mc: (1) ngi ang sng, c o c cn phi chukh na khng? (2) c o ri m thn vn cn kh, sao chng la thni; nu gi thn sng thm, ho ra c o chng v-ch lm hay sao?

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    V thc-mc th nht, Na-Tin gii-p: ngi c o cn sng th thncn kh m tm dt cc phin-no nn ht kh.

    Gii-to mi thc-mc th hai v vic ''tm ci cht cho ht kh'', Na-Tina ra mt th-d rt hay: ''tri cy cha chn, cha vi hi, nn i lc tri chn mui''. V Na-Tin nhc li li ni v cng qu-bu ca Ngi X-li-

    pht:

    ''Ti chng cu cht, ti cng chng cu sng, ti ch ch ng thi ra i thra i.''

    Nhn-xt:

    1.- Ngi c o ang sng th thn vn cn cm-xc nn phi chu cnhkh ca ga v bnh; nhng v phn tinh-thn, tm- thot khi cc phin-no, chng-ngi, nn c an-nhin, t-ti. y l dp khin ta nn suy-gm n hai ch au-kh trong ting Vit thun-ty ca ta. au khc. Khkhc. au th thn au; cn Kh th tm kh ; nh khi c ci rng au,ming th nhc-nhi, sao ta li cn chng thm ni Kh ln cho tm, khin cho lng phi bun-bc, bt-rt? au rng cn cha hay sao m lisanh thm bc-tc, cau-c gy thm Kh cho lng mnh v cho c ccngi chung quanh?

    2.- Th phn-tch v tm hiu ch qu-bu trong li ni ca Ngi X-li-

    pht:

    a.- ''Ti chng cu cht...'' Ti sao? V tm thn hin nay cn y ch l tmthn d-y; s d cn sng l tr nt d-nghip cn st li. Hn na, cucht l thi- trn-trnh n i; khi nghip-lc vn cn m cu ly ci cht,th theo vng Lun-hi phi ti-sanh li ri phi chu Kh di-di. Lina, mng-sng con ngi l iu v cng qu-gi, nh n m ta mi c c-duyn bit n, v tu-tp theo, con ng gii-thot vnh-vin.

    b.- ''Ti cng chng cu sng...'' Ti sao? Khi sanh ra, no phi t ti cu

    cho ti c sanh ra u, vng Lun-hi c xoay-chuyn mi theo nghip-lc c m ti-sanh. Trong cuc sng hin-ti cn li y, mi s ham-munu chm dt ni tm ti, cn c iu chi na khin ti c i ham sng hng? Tm ti an-nhin xem c hai s sng, cht u ngang nhau; snggi, thc v, no c chi m ngi, m cu ch?

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    c.- ''Ti ch ch ng thi ra i, th ra i.'' Lc no mi ng thi ra i? l lc dt sch nghip, do mt ci cht t-

    nhin v thanh-thn mang n. Ti ra i, chng cht luyn-tic, cng chngcht ho-hc, an-nhin m ra i vo ci vng-lng.

    d.- y l li ni ca mt bc c o, gic-ng hon-ton v l sngcht trong vng Lun-hi v con ng gii-thot v ni an-lc vnh-cu.Tng nn vit ln thnh i cu lin, sn son thp vng, ghi ly lmiu tm-nim:

    * Ti chng cu cht; ti cng chng cu sng

    * Ti ch ch ng thi ra i, th ra i.

    8.- B Lun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh'' gip ta n li Gio-l vi n cihm-tiu!

    Kinh-sch ging Gio-L phn nhiu qu cao-siu v kh ... nut cho tri!Nhng b Lun ''Na-Tin T-Kheo Kinh'' ny, ngoi nhng on vn gii-thch cc im thc-mc mt cch t-m v su-sc ra, cn c nhng cu hi,nhng li p hm-hnh, d-dm v cng m i cht ma-mai. Xin trchra mt on:

    Vng li hi Na-Tin:- Sa-mn c mn-thng thn-th ca mnh khng?- Sa-mn chng t thng-mn thn mnh.- Sa mn chng mn-thng thn mnh, c sao khi ngh-ngi li munnm ni m-, khi n-ung li mun vt ngon ca p, t sn-sc mnh nhth?

    Na-Tin hi li Vng:

    - i-Vng c tng ra ngoi trn chin-u chng?- D nhin, Ta tng ra trn chin-u.- Ti trn chin-u, i-Vng c tng b ao, kim chm, hay tn bntrng chng?- Ta nhiu ln b trng ao, kim.- Khi b ao, kim, tn (...) gy thng-tch, i-Vng lm g?- Ta dng thuc (...) dng bng gn bng b li.

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    - i-Vng v mn-thng vt thng m dng thuc (...) dng bng bng-b li vt thng chng?- Ta u c mn-thng vt thng.- Chng mn-thng vt thng sao li dng thuc, dng bng bng li?- Ta ch mong mun vt thng mau lnh, ch du c mn-thng g n.- Sa-mn cng li nh vy, chng mn-thng thn mnh; tuy n-ung, tmchng vui-khoi, chng mun lm p, chng mun lm tt, chng mun datht sc hng-ho, m ch mun cho thn-th kho-mnh c th phng-hnh gii-lut, Kinh-k ca Pht. Kinh Pht c ging: ''Thn ngi c chnl hng, ta nh vt m ca mu-thng, t ni chn l chy ra cht dhi-thi.''

    Vng khen: ''Lnh thay!''

    *Cn rt nhiu on khc na, c thy hn chn mi cu vn-p gia vVng-gia thng-tu v v T-kheo li-lc; ri-rc khp b Lun n-chanhiu o hoa thm, cn ang ch c thng-thc. Tng chng cn di-dng tn-dng thm na mt b Lun tng c s ngi-khen nng-nhit ca cc hc-gi t ng sang Ty, t c ch kim.

    Montreal, 12-04-2005Thin Nht

    Knh trnh.

    A.- Bn Phng-dch(Da theo Bn vn i ng-Tn, thiu tn dch-gi Hn-vn, ni b Cn-Long i-Tng Kinh, Quyn s 108, cc trang 706- 753)

    Quyn Thng

    Xin Lu-:(Cc tiu-mc c nh s, in ch m, v cc ch nghing trong ngoc u

    do Thin Nht thm vo, chnh-vn trong i-Tng chng c.)

    001.- c Pht vo rng tng.

    Vo mt thi kia, c Pht ng ti nc X-V, ni vn K-th Cp-c-c, cc v t-kheo tng, ni, cn-s-nam, cn-s-n, ch Thin, Vua, i-thn, trng-gi, nhn-dn v chn mi su hng o-gi, hn vn ngi,

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    cng n trc Pht nghe ging Kinh. c Pht nhn thy rng ng odn chng hm nay tm-thn tht chng an, nn Ngi c -nh mun ri xa,nn i n mt ni nhn-tnh, ngi nim o. c Pht lin ri dnchng, i vo ni, ti mt khu rng tng, trn cy c cc v th-thn. Nigc cy, c Pht ngi nim o thanh-tnh.

    *

    002.- Tng-vng vo rng tng gp c Pht.

    Cch khu rng tng chng xa, c mt by voi hn nm trm con, trong Tng-vng l voi cha, hin-lnh, bit r iu lnh vic c, ta nh loingi vy. By voi bao quanh Tng-vng, c c, ci c, ng di c, ngva c, ng ngn c. Tng Vng kht, mun i ung nc; nhng n voi

    nh chy i trc, nhy xung ung nc; ung xong li di nc n-a khin cho nc tr nn c ngu. Tng-vng chng c nc trong gii kht. Tng-vng li i, mun i n c; n voi nh li chy trc nht c non, li dm p ln, khin Tng-vng chng c c tt d.Tng-vng thm ngh, by voi con khuy c nc, dy xo c ti,khin ta chng c nc trong ung, chng c c sch n; vy ta hy xa richng i n mt ni no an-tnh, sung-sng hn. Tng-vng lin rin voi, i vo ni, n khu rng tng. Thy c Pht ang ngi di gctng, Tng-vng lng rt vui mng, lin n vp u trc chn Pht,lm l, ri ng sang bn cnh. c Pht t ngh, ta li dn chng n ni

    ny; Tng-vng cng li n voi n gc cy ny, c hai vic u ngmt -nghi. c Pht lin v Tng-vng ni Kinh: ''Pht l bc tn-knhnht trong hng ngi; Tng-vng cng l bc tn-knh nht trong hngvoi. c Pht ni, tm ta vi tm ca Tng-vng hp nhau, ta v Tng-vng cng vui bn gc cy ny.'' Tng-vng nghe Kinh xong, tm-tlin m sng, hiu r Pht, lin i nhiu quanh ch c Pht ngi, ly viht nc ti t, dng mi qut t, dng chn p t cho bng phng.Tng-vng sm chiu hu-h nh th. Mi lu v sau, c Pht nhp

    Nit-Bn, Tng-vng chng bit Pht i v u, nn ro quanh khp

    chn, mi cu tm gp Pht chng c, khc lc o-no, b c n ung.*

    003.- Tng-vng n cha nghe Kinh

    Vo thi , trong nc c ngi cha Pht tn l Ca-La-Hon trn ni, lni tu-hnh ca nm trm v sa-mn, u c o-qu A-la-hn c; thng

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    c vo su ngy trai trong thng, tng Kinh cho dn sng. Tng-vngcng trn ni, bn cnh cha, bit vo ngy trai c tng Kinh, nn vocha nghe Kinh. Cc v sa-mn bit Tng-vng thch nghe Kinh, nn khiTng-vng n th tng. Tng-Vng nghe Kinh, hiu c thng sut,chng h bun ng, chng h nm, chng h giao-ng. C nh th mTng-vng lun nghe Kinh v tha s ch Pht.

    *

    004.- Tin-kip ca t-kheo Na-Tin v vua Di-Lan

    Mi lu v sau, Tng-vng th-mng ht, cht i v c ti sanh lmngi, con trai mt nh theo o B-la-mn, chng cn c nghe KinhPht, chng gp c sa-mn, nn mi ri nh ln non, hc o. Trn ni,

    c gn gi vi mt v o-nhn theo o B-la-mn, c hai cng lm bntr-thc vi nhau. Mt ngi t ngh, ta nhn thy ni th-gian y u-su,gi bnh kh, cht i li phi sa vo a-ngc, ng-qu, sc-sanh; cho nn tanguyn co ru tc, mc o c-sa, lm sa-mn, cu o v-vi cu i. Cnngi kia th li t ngh, ta mun cu lm vua mt nc, t-ti, khin thin-h cng thuc v ta, nghe lnh ta. Hai ngi cng nguyn-cu nh th. Vsau, c hai ngi u ht th-mng, c ti sanh lm ngi. Mt ngi,kip trc c li nguyn lm quc-vng, sanh ra lm Thi-t mt nc

    bn ven bin; cha m t tn l Di-Lan. Cn mt ngi, kip trc c linguyn cu o v-vi cu i, th sanh ra ti nc Thin-Trc (n-),

    huyn K-Tn, c cha m t tn l -Lip.

    V c li nguyn tin-kip, nn khi sanh ra -Lip c o c-sa qun khpthn-th; cng lc , mt con Tng-vng cng ra i trong nh ; nncha m ly tn Na ca Tng-vng m t tn cho con, v gi l Na-Tin.

    *

    005.- Na-Tin xut-gia cu o vi Lu-Hn.

    Na-Tin ln ln, n nm mi lm, mi su tui, theo ngi cu l Lu-Hn. Lu-Hn lm sa-mn c ti tuyt-diu, th-gian chng ai bng, mtnhn tht xa, tai nghe tht thnh, bit r vic i trc v i sau ca mnh,di chuyn th bay cao, vt qua cc hang ng chng b ngn-ngi, t-ti

    bin-ha chng iu chi chng lm c, trn tri di t mun loi ng-vt b st hay bay cao, h ng-tm l hay bit n c. Na-Tin n ni cu, k r tm-nguyn mnh cu Pht-o, mun xung tc co ru, mc o c-

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    sa lm sa-mn, xin cu cho lm -t. Lu-Hn bit i trc Na-Tin singlm vic thin, c li th nguyn thm-trng, nn thng m cho lm sa-di.

    Na-Tin c th Thp-Gii, hng ngy tng Kinh gi gii, tu c ci T-Thin, nn bit rnh tt c Kinh-k, nhng cn cha c th gii i-sa-mn.

    *

    006.- Na-Tin n cha Ho-Thin-T.

    Vo thi , trong nc c ngi cha trn ni tn l Ho-Thin-T, c nmtrm v sa-mn u chng o-qu A-la-hn, trong s c v A-la-hn bcnht tn l t-Bi-Vit (Pali: Assagutta) bit r cc vic trn tri, di t,qu-kh, v-lai v hin-ti. Na-Tin va hai mi tui, nhn th gii i-sa-

    mn mi n cha Ho-Thin-T, l ni tr-tr ca Ngi t-Bi-Vit. Bygi, vo ngy Rm c l thuyt gii i-sa-mn, cc v Thng-to, i-sa-mn u i vo ging-ng. Na-Tin cng nhp vo trong s . Ch sa-mn va ngi xung xong, Ngi t-Bi-Vit nhn ch sa-mn thy tt c tmu chng o A-la-hn, ch ring mt mnh Na-Tin cn cha chng-cqu-v y. Ngi t-Bi-Vit lin ni Kinh: ''Th-d nh vo ga go, ht htu trong trng, nu ln ht go en, th l la ra cn cha k. Nay chngta ngi y tt c u thanh bch, ch tr Na-Tin l ht go en, v cha co A-la-hn.'' Nghe Ngi t-Bi-Vit thuyt kinh nh th, Na-Tin lngsu-bi, lin ng dy, ci xung lm l nm trm v sa-mn, ri bc ra

    ngoi. Na-Tin t ngh, ta chng xng ngi ti ta ny v cha c -thot;tt c cc v sa-mn u c -thot, cng nh gia by s-t cchn co ln vo. K t nay, ta cn cha c o th chng tr vo y na.

    Ngi t-Bi-Vit bit c -ngh ca Na-Tin, lin gi Na-Tin li trcmt, ly tay xoa u Na-Tin v ni: ''ng su-bi, chng bao lu na con sc qu A-la-hn.'' (...)

    *

    007.- Na-Tin b S Ca-Duy-Vit trc-xut, lin i vo rng n-tu v cqu-v A-la-hn.

    Na-Tin cn c mt v s-ph khc na, tn l Ca-Duy-Vit, tui trn tmmi. Trong huyn c mt v u-b-tc rt hin-lnh, mi ngy thngcng-dng thc-phm cho cc -t ca Ngi Ca-Duy-Vit. Na-Tin n

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    ni thy , v thy m cm ly bnh bt v i kht-thc mang cm v chothy.

    S-ph ra lnh cho Na-Tin phi ngm mt ngm nc mn trong ming khii n nh v u-b-tc nhn cm. V u-ba-tc nhn thy Na-Tin tuicn tr m i ng oan-trang, ni bt ln gia cc v t-kheo, nn bit lngi c tr-hu thng-minh, thng-t Kinh-k, c bin-ti thuyt-php.Khi thy Na-Tin bc vo nh, v u-b-tc lin ng dy lm l, xoa tayv tha rng: ''Hng ngy ti thng dng cng thc-phm cho ch sa-mn;cc Ngi n thng v ti thuyt ging Kinh-k; nguyn xin Ngi thngti m ni Kinh gii s ngu-si ca ti.'' Na-Tin lin t ngh: ''Ta nayvng lnh ca S-ph phi ngm nc mn trong ming, chng c ninng. Nu nay ta nh nc ra th phm gii ca Thy, bit lm sao y?''

    Na-Tin li ngh: ''V u-b-tc ny chc cng ti cao c ch, nu ta v ng

    y ni Kinh, tng ng ta s c o cng nn...'' Na-Tin lin nh nc ra,n ngi xung v thuyt Kinh: ''Ngi hay b-th, lm lnh, phng-hnhKinh-k v gii-lut, th i ny c an-n, i sau s sanh ln ci Tri,hoc vo hng Ngi cao-qu, tr-hu sng-sut, chng phi sa vo a-ngc,ng-qu, sc-sanh. Cn ngi chng phng-hnh Kinh v Gii th i nykh-s, i sau b a vo ba ng c, chng bit bao gi ra khi.'' V u-

    b-tc nghe Kinh, lng rt vui mng. Na-Tin thy bit tm v y hoan-h,lin tip-tc ni Kinh thm-diu: ''Vn vt th-gian u chng thng-cn,trong qu-kh u kh-s. Con ngi th-gian cng li nh vy; h uni, thn ny ca ta ha-hn nhiu iu chng c t-ti. Ci N-hon (=ci Nit-bn) th vui-sng v cng, y chng sanh, chng gi, chng

    bnh, chng cht, chng su, mi s kh-s u tiu-dit...'' Na-Tin niKinh xong, v u-b-tc lin chng c o-qu Tu--hun; Na-Tincng t chng-c qu-v y. V u-b-tc lng rt hoan-h, lin em thc-

    phm ngon tt ra dng cng. Na-Tin bo v y, trc nn st y bt caS-ph mang v. Na-Tin n xong, sc ming, thu xp cm bt y cmmang v cho S-ph.

    S-ph thy cm ngon trong bt, lin ni: ''Nu hm nay mang v bt y

    cm ht sc ngon-tt nh vy, l vi-phm li c ca chng tng, vyphi trc-xut ngi ra khi y.'' Na-Tin bun ti, chng vui. S ni vihi-chng, v cc t-kheo ang cng ngi : ''Na-Tin vi-phm iu cca chng ta, cn phi trc-xut, chng c trong hi-chng na.'' Ngit-Bi-Vit ni th-d rng: ''Nh mt ngi dng mt mi tn m bn trngc hai mc-tiu, th nh th chng nn trc-xut vy. Na-Tin thuyt Kinhm t chng-c o, li ng thi khin cho v u-b-tc cng chng qu,

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    th chng nn trc xut.'' S Ca-Duy-Vit ni: ''Ngay c dng mt mi tnm bn trng n trm mc-tiu i na cng vi-phm iu c ca chngtng, chng th cho lu li c. Cc ngi khc tt chng kh nngnh Na-Tin m c o. Nn chn ng vic ny v sau; nu chng trcxut Na-Tin, cc ngi khc sau ny s bt chc theo.'' Ton th chng t-kheo ngi im, mc-nhin ty theo li S dy trc-xut Na-Tin. Na-Tinlin ci u st chn S-ph, lm l chng tng.

    L xong, Na-Tin lin i ngay vo rng su ni thm, ngi di gc cy,ngy m tinh-tn nim o chng ngng. Chng bao lu, Na-Tin c oA-la-hn, c th bay cao, nhn thy tht xa, tai nghe tht r, t tng -nght-tng trong lng k khc, thng-t vic i trc, i sau. c o A-la-hn xong, Na-Tin lin tr li cha Ho-Thin-T, khu u cu sm-hivi ch t-kheo tng; cc Ngi nghe nhn l. L xong, Na-Tin lin ra i.

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    008.- Na-Tin i hnh-o trong dn-gian.

    Na-Tin chuyn hng i vo cc qun huyn, qua cc no ng ph, nghm, v ngi m thuyt Kinh, ging Gii, dy ngi lm lnh, trong s cngi c cc o-qu Tu--hun, T--hm, A-na-hm, ngay c tronghng sa-mn chng c o-qu A-la-hn na.

    Tri T-Thin-Vng, Tri ao-Li, Tri -Thch, i-Phm Thin-Vng u n trc mt Na-Tin, ci u st chn lm l, ngi bn cnhnghe thuyt php, li vn vang n bn ci Tri.

    Tt c Tri, Ngi, dn, qu, thn, rng... chng ai trng thy Na-Tin mchng t lng hoan-h, c hng nhiu phc-c.

    Na-Tin mi di-chuyn sang Thin-Trc ni nc X-Kit, dng tr li cha Tit--Ca-T.

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    009.- Vua Di-Lan cai-tr nc X-Kit.

    By gi X-Kit-quc c v Thi-t tn l Di-Lan, trong tin-kip vn lbn tr-thc c vi Na-Tin, sau sanh ti hi-bin. Thi-t Di-Lan lc cn trhiu-hc, sing c Kinh-k ngoi-o, bit rnh cc Kinh cao-thm v kh

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    hiu, cng vi cc tu-s ngoi-o tranh-lun, chng ai thng ni. Khi ph-vng bng-h, thi-t ln ni ngi, tc-v l Quc-Vng Di-Lan.

    Mt hm, Vua hi cc i-thn hu bn cnh: ''Trong nc c o-gia haynhn-dn no sc cng Ta bn-lun v cc Kinh kh chng?'' Cc quanhu-cn tu: ''Bm c, c ngi hc o Pht c dn gi l v Sa-mn. Vy tr-hu thng-t rng-su, c th cng i-vng bn-lun v cc Kinhcao kh.''

    Thu y ti min Bc i-Tn, c nc X-Kit yn-n, nhn dn hin-lnh. ng x trong thnh rng-ri, mi ca thnh u c chm tr, (...)

    ph x trng by la-lit, ng quan-o c nga voi, xe c dp du, namthanh n t ra vo. o nhn, thy th, dn lnh u rt cao-minh; nhn dno qun lo-lt nm mu, ph n trang-sc mu trng, tay eo vng chu

    ngc. t-ai cao ro c nhiu trn-bo. Bn phng khch mua bn udng tin vng (...) Nh nh nui sc-vt, ch ch by bn canh ngon, itc dng cm st, kht ung ru b-o, vui-sng chng th t.

    Quc-vng nc ny hiu l Di-Lan, dng Chnh-Php tr nc. Vua Di-Lan ti cao, tr sng, thu-hiu Kinh-o, rnh vic qu-kh, v-lai v hin-ti, cc mu-lc chin-u chng chi chng lu-thng.

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    010.- Vua Di-Lan hi b tu-s D-Ho-La.

    Lc by gi, Vng ra thnh i du-ngon, cc binh-chng dn ra h-tngbn ngoi. Tm Vng cao-ngo t ngh, Ta lm Vua, c kh nng i-p chn mi su loi kinh, ni gii ra ch ngi hi n tn v cng,thch-hp vi lng ngi vui hiu li ta ni. Vng lin ni vi cc quanhu-cn:

    - Vn cn sm qu tr vo thnh, chng c vic g lm. Cc khanh c bitv o-nhn hay sa-mn no c th cng Ta bn-lun v cc Kinh kh

    chng?

    Vin quan hu-cn tn l Trim-Di-Li-Vng-Qun tu rng:

    - Bm c, c sa-mn tn l D-Ho-La bit tht r-rng v Kinh-o, c thcng i-Vng tho-lun v cc kinh kh.

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    Vng bo Trim-Di-Li i thnh v sa-mn y. Trim tu:

    - Tht lnh thay! Nh vua mun tng-kin th nn i n . K h-thnkhi i mi.

    Trim-Di-Li tu li ln na nh th. Vng lin ngi xe, c nm trm k-scng i theo n cha.

    Vng hi-kin vi D-Ho-La, trc hi thm sc kho, k n an-ta;nm trm k-binh cng ngi xung. Vng lin hi D-Ho-La:

    - V l-do no m Khanh ri b v con, xung tc, co ru, mc o c-sa,lm sa-mn vy? Khanh cu o no th?

    D-Ho-La tu:

    - Chng ti hc hnh trung-chnh ca o Pht, i ny c phc, i saucng c phc, v l , ti xung tc, co ru, mc o c-sa lm sa-mn.

    Vng li hi:

    - K o trng cn nh, c v con, m theo ng hnh trung-chnh, i nayc c phc chng? i sau, cng c phc y chng?

    D-Ho-La p:

    - Ngi o trng cn ti nh, c v con m theo ng hnh trung-chnh, iny c phc, v i sau cng c phc y na.

    Vng lin ni:

    - Nu k o trng c v con ti nh, theo ng hnh trung-chnh, i nyc phc m i sau cng li c phc na, th c sao Khanh li bv con, xung tc, co ru, lm sa-mn ch?

    D-Ho-La ngi im-lng, chng p c li Vua. Cc v quan hu-cn thyth lin ni:

    - V sa-mn cao-minh ny b bi ri nng, chng tr li ni.

    H lin qu tay ln, ni to:

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    - i-Vng c thng! i-Vng c thng!

    D-Ho-La im lng chu thua.

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    011.- Vua Di-Lan thnh Na-Tin.

    Vng quay nhn li cc v u-b-tc, thy cc v ny gng mt chng ccht h-thn no. Vng t ngh, cc u-b-tc mt chng h-thn, chc cnc mt v sa-mn no rnh-r Kinh-k hn, c th cng Ta bn-lun y.Vng lin hi Trim-Di-Li:

    - Cn v sa-mn cao-minh no khc c th cng Ta bn-lun v cc Kinhkh chng?

    Thi by gi, c v Thy ca cc sa-mn, tn l Na-Tin, thng cng ccsa-mn ra vo, v cc sa-mn m thuyt-ging Kinh-k. Na-Tin hiu riu tinh-yu ca tt c cc Kinh, c th ging-gii Mi hai th-loi Kinh,

    phn-bit r-rng tng chng, tng on, tng cu, thng-t r o N-Hon (=Nit-bn), chng ai hi cho n cng ni, chng ai c thng ni, cth ph mi s nghi-ng, c th lm sng t li suy-t ca ngi khc, trnh sng bin, tng khc-phc chn mi su loi ngoi-o, v bn chng-t ca Pht m ging dy Kinh-k, c cc bc tr-gi ngng-m,

    thng mang Kinh-k ra dy d ngi. Na-Tin nay n nc X-Kit, cng-o -t theo hu, phc n Na-Tin cao-minh nh S-t dng-mnh.

    Trim-Di-Li tu vua:

    - C v sa-mn tn l Na-Tin, tr-hu thm-diu, bit r iu tinh-yu cacc Kinh, gii r mi nghi-ng, chng iu chi chng thng, c th cngi-Vng bn-lun v Kinh kh.

    Vua hi li Trim-Di-Li:

    - Khanh ngh k, v y c th cng Ta bn-lun Kinh kh chng?

    Trim-Di-Li lin p:

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    - D-nhin, Na-Tin c th cng i-Vng ni Kinh kh, Na-Tin tngbn-lun Kinh-k vi i-Phm Thin-Vng trn tng Tri th by, sao lichng sc bn-lun vi ngi?

    Vng lin ra lnh Trim-Di-Li i thnh Na-Tin n.

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    012.- Vua Di-Lan va gp Na-Tin.

    Trim-Di-Li lin i n ch Na-Tin v tha rng:

    - Bch Ngi, i-Vng mun cng Ngi tng-kin.

    Na-Tin lin cng ch -t i n ni Vua ng. Vng tuy cha tng gp

    mt Na-Tin ln no, nhng a mt nhn ra xa thy Na-Tin mc o ni bttrong hng cc ngi ang i, lin thm bit l Na-Tin. Vng t ngh,Ta thng thy rt nhiu ngi i vo ta i-in ny, Ta cng cha h lo-lng nh hm nay gp Na-Tin. Hm nay, nht-nh Na-Tin thng Ta, Tachc chng vui, v tm Ta ang bt-an, bng-hong.

    Trim-Di-Li tu Vua:

    - Na-Tin n, cn ng bn ngoi.

    Vua hi Trim:

    - Na-Tin ng ti ch no u?

    Trim-Di-Li lin ch cho Vng thy. Vng rt vui mng v chnh ngl ngi m Ngi thm nhn ra trc . Vng nhn thy Na-Tin mco i gia cc ngi ang vo chng khc chi c.

    Na-Tin lin n, trc hi thm tin-tc sc kho; Vng rt hoan-h, ngitrc mt Na-Tin cng tr chuyn.

    Vng ni:

    - Kinh Pht ni, ngi an-n l iu li ln, ngi bit l iu giu nht,ngi c s tn-cn l iu su-dy nht. o Nit-bn l u khoi-lcnht.

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    013.- Ai l Na-Tin? Xe l g? Ngi l g?

    Hng v Na-Tin, Vng hi:

    - Khanh tn chi?

    Na-Tin p:

    - Cha m ti t tn cho l Na-Tin, c lc gi l Th-Na-Tin, c khi ku lDuy-Ca-Tin; v th ngi i bit n ti di danh-t .

    Vng hi Na-Tin:

    - Ai l Na-Tin?

    Vng li hi tip:

    - u l Na-Tin chng?

    - u chng phi l Na-Tin.

    - Mt, tai, mi, ming l Na-Tin chng?

    - Mt, tai, mi, ming chng phi l Na-Tin.

    - C, t, vai, cnh tay, chn, bn tay l Na-Tin chng?

    - Chng phi l Na-Tin.

    - (...), bn chn l Na-Tin chng?

    - Chng phi l Na-Tin.

    - Nhan-sc l Na-Tin chng?- Chng phi l Na-Tin.

    - Kh, vui l Na-Tin chng?

    - Chng phi l Na-Tin.

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    - Thin, c l Na-Tin chng?

    - Chng phi l Na-Tin.

    - Thn-th l Na-Tin chng?

    - Chng phi l Na-Tin.

    - Gan, phi, tim, l-lch, gn, rut, d-dy l Na-Tin chng?

    - Chng phi l Na-Tin.

    - Hip nm vic: nhan-sc, kh vui, thin c, thn, tm li c phi l Na-Tinchng?

    - Chng phi l Na-Tin.

    - Thanh-m, ting vang, hi th, c phi l Na-Tin chng?

    - Chng phi l Na-Tin.

    - Vy ch ch no l Na-Tin h?

    Na-Tin hi Vng:

    - Xe kia, ch no l xe? Trc xe c phi l xe chng?

    - Trc xe chng phi l xe.

    - Vnh bnh xe c phi l xe chng?

    - Vnh bnh xe chng phi l xe.

    - Cm bnh xe c phi l xe chng?

    - Cm bnh xe chng phi l xe.- Ngm vnh xe c phi l xe chng?

    - Ngm vnh xe chng phi l xe.

    - Cng xe c phi l xe chng?

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    - Cng xe chng phi l xe.

    - ch xe c phi l xe chng?

    - ch xe chng phi l xe.

    - n xe c phi l xe chng?

    - n xe chng phi l xe.

    - Gng xe c phi l xe chng?

    - Gng xe chng phi l xe.

    - Mui xe c phi l xe chng?

    - Mui xe chng phi l xe.

    - Hip tt c cc b-phn bng cy li thnh mt, c phi l xe chng?

    - Hip cc b-phn li cng chng phi l xe.

    - Nu chng hip cc b-phn li, c phi l xe chng?

    - Chng hip chng li th chng thnh xe.

    - Thanh-m l xe chng?

    - Thanh-m chng phi l xe.

    - Vy th ci g l xe?

    Vng im lng, chng tr li c. Na-Tin lin ni:

    - Kinh Pht c ni n, hip-t cc b-phn bng cy li, l nguyn-nhn

    c c chic xe. Con ngi cng li nh vy, h hip-t u, mt, tai,mi, ming, c, t, vai, cnh tay, xng, tht, bn tay, chn, gan, phi, mt,l-lch, thn, rut, d-dy, nhan-sc, thanh-m, hi th, kh vui, thin c,chung li th thnh con ngi.''

    Vng ni: ''Lnh thay! Lnh thay!''

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    014.- Thi- ng-n khi tho-lun.

    Vng li hi Na-Tin: ''S c th cng Ta bn-lun v cc Kinh kh

    chng?''

    Na-Tin p: ''Nu Vua dng tr-hu hi ti, th c th cng nhau bn-lun. Nu Vua dng li vng-gi kiu-qu, th chng th cng Vua bn-lun c.''

    Vng hi tip:

    - Tr-hu, c bao nhiu loi?

    - Bc tr-gi, khi m-lun, ht sc vn hi cng nhau, gii r cng nhau, lini cao, li ni thp, li ni chnh-trc, li ni bt-chnh; c thng c thuat mnh bit ly phi tri, l tr-hu ti-thng, chng cn cht gin-hn;

    bc tr-gi l nh th .

    - Li ni vng-gi, c bao nhiu loi?

    - Li ni vng-gi t phng theo cm-ngh ca mnh; h c ch tri lchng nh Vua, tc thi Vua bt ti nng, pht git i; nh th l lini bc vng-gi.

    Vng lin ni rng:

    - Nguyn dng li ni ca bc tr-gi, chng dng li ni ca Vng-gi;chng gi -ngh Vng-gi trong li mnh ni, ch nn ni theo nh li -t ca ch sa-mn, nh li cc v u-b-tc, nn theo li ca ch sa-mn mkhin cho lng mnh chng mang s-hi, chnh-tm cng c khai-ng.

    Na-Tin lin tht ln rng: ''Tht lnh thay!''

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    015.- Cu hi rt kh: chng nghe hi, m c p ri chng?

    Vng ni: ''Ta c iu mun hi.''

    Na-Tin p: ''i-Vng c hi!''

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    Vng ni: ''Ta hi ri.''

    Na-Tin lin ni: ''Ti cng p xong.''

    Vng vn hi: ''p nhng g u?''

    Na-Tin hi li: ''Vng hi ti nhng g u?''

    Vng ni: ''Ta chng c ch hi, Na-Tin cng chng c ch p.''

    Vng t ngh, v sa-mn ny tr-hu tht cao-minh, Ta va mi mun hicho tht nhiu, nhng (...) ngy cng gn ti ri, hay l nn sng mai lithnh ngi n cung-in mi tin cng nhau tham-vn thm. Vng lin

    bo Trim-Di-Li-Vng-Qun ni vi Na-Tin: ''Ngy gn ti ri, Vngcn phi hi-cung. Ngy mai, Vng mun thnh Ngi n hong-cung.''

    Na-Tin p: ''Lnh lm thay!''

    Vng ln nga tr v hong-cung. Ngi trn lng nga, Vng vn tip-tc ngh n ''Na-Tin! Na-Tin!'', ngh mi cho n sng hm sau.

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    016.- Thnh Na-Tin, mi thm bao-nhiu sa-mn

    Sng hm sau, Trim-Di-Li v cc quan hu-cn tu Vua: ''i-Vngthm-nh nn mi Na-Tin n chng?'' Vng p: ''Nn mi n ch!''Trim lin tha: ''Khi mi Na-Tin, nn mi bao nhiu v sa-mn cngn?'' Vng bo: ''Hy c ty Na-Tin mun cho bao nhiu v sa-mncng n cng c.'' V ch kho vua, tn l Khan, bc ra tu rng: ''Nn

    bo Na-Tin cng n vi mi v sa-mn na, cng c.'' Vng liphn: ''Nn nghe theo li Na-Tin, mun n cng vi bao nhiu v sa-mncng c.'' Khan li c tu na: ''Nn bo Na-Tin cng n vi mi vsa-mn, cng c.'' Vng nghe Khan n-nh nhn-s nh th, lin nigin qu: ''Nh-ngi qu keo-kit; tn nh-ngi l Khan, tc ngha l keo-

    kit, -vt ca vua m ngi cn bn-sn nh th, hung g l ca ringngi th ngi cn rt-rng n bc no? Ngi chng bit nghch Ta lng b pht ti nng sao?'' Vng li n-tn bo: ''Thi ta thng m tha ticho, hy ct i. Ta lm Vua m chng sc cung-cp thc-phm chochng sa-mn hay sao?'' Khan bn ln h thn, chng dm ni na.

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    Trim-Di-Li lin i n ngay tr-s ca Na-Tin, trc lm l ri bchrng: ''i-Vng thnh Ngi n hong-cung.'' Na-Tin ni: ''Nh-vua nhti n vi bao nhiu v sa-mn ng-hnh?'' Trim tha: ''Vua bo, t-

    Ngi mun n vi bao nhiu v sa-mn cng c.''

    Na-Tin lin bo tm mi v sa-mn D-Ho-La-T cng mnh ra i viTrim-Di-Li.

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    017.- Dc ng, Na-Tin khai-ng cho Trim.

    Trn ng i, khi sp vo ca thnh, Trim-Di-Li nh li ngy hm qua,Na-Tin c ni vi Vua, ''chng c chi l Na-Tin'', lin tha-thnh v sa-mn v -ngha cu . Na-Tin hi Trim: ''Theo ca Khanh, th ci g l

    Na-Tin?''

    Trim-Di-Li p:

    -Theo ti, th mng sng trong hi th ra vo chnh l Na-Tin.

    Na-Tin hi li Trim:

    - Hi th ca ngi khi ra m chng hon vo li, th ngi y cn sngchng?

    - Khi hi th ra m chng tr vo li, tc l cht mt.

    - Nh ngi thi kn l lau, nh ngi thi ng b l rn, c hi ra m chi tr vo chng?

    - Chng c hi tr vo.

    - Nh ngi dng t-v thi qut di t, hi thi ra m c vo li chng?

    - Chng c hi tr vo.

    - Cng vi hi thi c ra m chng c tr vo, sao con ngi chng chttheo?

    Trim-Di-Li bch vi S:

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    - Ti chng th hiu ni khong gia hi th ra v vo, nguyn S v chngti m gii r ra.

    Na-Tin gii-thch:

    - Hi th ra vo l mt phn-vic trong thn-th; nh trong tm c -nim,th li ni ra li, l phn-vic ca li; nh trong lng c iu nghi, tmlin ngh n, l phn-vic ca tm; mi mi c c-phn v phn-vic c,nhn li th l khng, (l rng-rang). Vy th, chng c g l Na-Tin c.

    Trim-Di-Li-Vng-Qun, lng c rng m, hiu ra r-rng, lin xin thgii u-b-tc.

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    018.- Bn v iu tinh-yu: ti sao lm sa-mn?

    Na-Tin i vo hong-cung, n ni Vua ang ngi trn in cao. Vnglin ng ln lm l Na-Tin v mi ngi. Tm mi v sa-mn ty tngcng an-to. Vng lin dng-hin thc-phm tht tt, tht ngon. Chnh tayVua st thc n cho Na-Tin trc nht. Khi ch v sa-mn dng cm xongv ra tay ri, Vng lin cho em ban-tng mi v sa-mn mt b o c-sav mt i giy da, v dng-hin cho ch Tng D-Ho-La-T ca Na-Tin mi v ba b o v mt i giy da. Vng lin ni vi Na-Tin, xin

    lu li mi v sa-mn, cc v cn li c th ra v. Na-Tin lin gi li mingi, cn cc ngi khc cho tr v cha.

    Vng ra lnh cho cc qu-nhn v k-n hu-cung phi ra thng-in,ngi sau mn m nghe Vng v Na-Tin bn-lun v Kinh kh. Khi ccqu-nhn v k-n ngi sau mn ni thng- in xong, Vng lin ngn bn cnh Na-Tin, ngi xung trc mt, v ni:

    - Nn thuyt-ging iu chi y?

    - Vng mun nghe iu tinh-yu, th nn ni iu tinh-yu.

    - o ca ch Khanh c iu tinh-yu no ti quan-trng? Ch Khanh v l-do no m lm sa-mn?

    - Chng ti v mun dt b s kh-nhc th-gian trong i ny v c isau, nn mi lm sa-mn. Chng ti ly iu lm iu thin ti-yu.

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    - C phi tt c ch sa-mn u v mun dt b s kh-nhc th-giantrong i ny, i sau m lm sa-mn chng?

    - Chng phi tt c u v mun dt b s kh-nhc th-gian trong i nyv i sau mi lm sa-mn. Sa-mn c bn hng.

    - Th no l bn hng sa-mn?

    - (1) C hng v n-nn m lm sa-mn; (2) C hng v s huyn-quan mlm sa-mn;(3) C hng v ngho-kh m lm sa-mn; (4) C hng tht-tnhmun dt b s kh-nhc i ny, i sau nn mi lm sa-mn. Cn ti,vn v cu o, mi lm sa-mn.

    - Nay phi chng v cu o m Khanh lm sa-mn?

    - Ti lc tui cn tr cu lm sa-mn, c gp cc v thng Kinh hiu ov cc -t ch sa-mn u l bc cao-minh, nn theo hc Kinh-k vGii-lut nhp-tm, v th nay mun dt b s kh-nhc i ny v isau, nn mi lm sa-mn.

    Vng ni: ''Lnh thay!''

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    019.- Ti sao phi sanh tr li? Tr-hu gip c g?

    Vng li hi Na-Tin:

    - C ngi cht ri chng phi sanh li na hay chng?

    - C ngi phi sanh li, m cng c ngi chng phi sanh tr li.

    - Ai cn phi sanh li v ai chng cn sanh li?

    - Ngi quyn-luyn nim n-i nhiu, lm s ham-mun th sanh li isau; ngi dt sch s n-i, b ht mi ham-mun th i sau chng phisanh tr li.

    - Cn ngi mt lng nim Chnh-Php, c tr-hu v sing lm iu thin,cng chng sanh li i sau, phi khng?

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    - Ngui ly nht-tm nim Chnh-Php, nim thin, nim tr- hu v cciu lnh khc, nh i sau chng phi sanh tr li.

    - Ngi mt lng nim Chnh-Php, nim thin v tr-hu, hai u cngmt -ngha nh nhau chng?

    - Hai iu -ngha khc nhau, chng ng.

    - Tru, nga, th-vt nui trong nh, c tr hay chng c tr?

    - Tru nga, th-vt nh u c tr c, nhng tm chng ng.

    Vng tng thy vic gt lu chng? Tay tri cm b la, tay phi ct tcc cng lu. Tr-hu con ngi ct dt c s tham-i, cng nh ta gtla, ct la vy.

    Vng khen: ''Lnh thay!''

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    020.- Thin l g? Thnh-tn l g?

    Vng hi Na-Tin:

    - Cc iu thin l nhng g?

    - Thnh-tn, hiu-thun, tinh-tn, nim thin, nht-tm, tr-hu, l ccu thin.

    - Thnh-tn l nhng g?

    - Thnh-tn tc l chng cn ch no nghi-ng: tin c Pht, tin c Kinh,Php ca Pht, tin c T-kheo Tng, tin c A-la-hn; tin c i ny, tin ci sau; tin c s hiu-thun vi cha-m; tin lm lnh gp lnh, lm c gpc. Tin c nh th th v sau, tm lin thanh-tnh dt xa c nm iuc.

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    021.- Nm iu c l nhng g?

    - Th no l nm iu c?

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    - Nm iu c l: (1) tham dm, (2) gin hn, (3) m ng, (4) vui a, (5)nghi-ng. Ngi chng li xa nm iu c th tm- chng an-nh; ri

    b c chng th tm lin thanh-tnh.

    Th d nh Vua Gi-Ca-Vit cng ngi nga qua sng, khin cho nc trnn c ngu. Vt qua sng ri, Vua kht, mun c nc ung. Nh Vuac vin ngc thanh-thy-chu, em ngm vo nc, nc lin lng trong,Vua c nc tinh-khit ung. Lng ngi c v nh nc c. Cc v-t Pht c o -thot sanh-t th tm thanh-tnh nh vin ngc thanh-thy-chu. Ngi b c cc iu c, lng thnh-tn v thanh-tnh ta nhvng trng sng.

    Vng ngi khen:''Lnh thay! Lnh thay!''

    *022.- Tinh-tn l lm sao?

    Vng li hi Na-Tin:

    - Ngi thnh-tn tinh-tn th nh th no?

    - Cc v -t Pht t thy trong hng ng-tu c ngi dt b c c-tm,c ngi c qu Tu--hun, c ngi c qu T--hm, c ngi c

    qu A-na-hm, c ngi c qu A-la-hn, nguyn-nhn l bit bt chcnhau m hnh-ng, nn cng u c -thot c.

    Cng ta nh trn ni cao c trn ma ro, nc chy trn xung sng ngplai-lng. Cc ngi dn gn y chng bit c nc su cn th no, nnchng dm li qua sng. Cht c ngi t xa li, nhn ln nc bit rnghp, cn su ra sao, t lng sc mnh, nn vt qua c. Dn gn thyth mi bt chc theo m li qua. -t Pht cng th, thy ngi i trctm thanh-tnh chng c bn qu-v, nn u noi theo thin-tm mtinh-tn tin ln. Kinh Pht c ni, ngi c lng thnh-tn c th t c -

    thot, ngi km ch c nm s tham-dc, th t bit thn ny l kh licn gip cho ngi i nn theo tr-hu m thnh-ton nn o-c.

    Vng khen ngi: ''Lnh thay! Lnh thay!''

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    023.- Hiu-thun y l tun theo 37 Phm tr o.

    Vng li hi:

    - Th no l hiu-thun?

    - Hiu-thun tc l tt c cc iu thin. Ba mi by phm kinh (= Ba miby Phm Tr o) u t cn-bn ni s hiu-thun.

    - Ba mi by phm kinh l nhng g?

    - l: (1) bn s dng-; (2) bn s on-; (3) bn thn-tc, (4) nm cn;(5) nm lc; (6) by gic-; (7) tm loi o-hnh.

    *

    024.- Th no l bn s dng- (= t nim-x)?

    - Bn s dng- l nhng g?

    - c Pht dy: ''Mt l qun thn, th thn dng li; hai l qun s au-nth s au-n ngng li; ba l qun tm-, th dng li; bn l qun php(tc l cc s-vt) th php dng li. l bn php qun dng- li.''

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    025.- Th no l bn s on-?

    - Bn s on l nhng g?

    - c Pht dy: ''Khi phn-bit c bn s dng- ri th chng nhngh n na, l bn s on-. Khi c c bn s on- ri, thlin c c bn nim thn-tc.

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    026.- Th no l bn nim thn-tc?

    - Bn nim thn-tc l nhng g?

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    - Th nht l mt c th nhn thy thu-trit. Hai l tai c th nghe r cthu-trit. Ba l c kh-nng bit r tm-trng ca k khc. Bn l thn-thc kh-nng bay cao. l bn nim thn-tc.

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    027.- Nm cn l nhng g?

    - Nm cn l nhng g?

    - Th nht l mt thy sc p, sc xu, chng dnh mc. Th hai l tainghe ting tt, li mng, chng dnh mc. Ba l mi ngi mi thm haythi, chng dnh mc. Bn l ming c v ngon, hay ng cay, chngdnh mc. Nm l thn ng chm vo ch trn lng, chng tham-mun,ng vo vt th cng, chng on-ght. l nm cn.

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    028.- Nm lc gm c nhng g?

    - Th no l nm lc?

    - Mt l km ch mt, hai l km-ch tai, ba l km-ch mi, bn l km-chming, nm l km-ch thn, cho khi b sa-o; l nm lc.

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    029.- Th no l by gic-?

    - By gic- l nhng g?

    - Mt l gic-; hai l phn-bit gic-; ba l tinh-tn gic-; bn l khgic-, nm l gic-; su l nh gic-; by l h gic-: l by gic-.

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    030.- Tm loi o-hnh (Bt chnh-o) l nhng g?

    - Th no l tm loi o-hnh?

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    - Mt l trc-kin; hai l trc-nim; ba l trc-ng; bn l trc-mng; nm ltrc-nghip; su l trc phng-tin; by l trc-; tm l trc-nh: ltm loi o-hnh.

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    031.- Ly Bt-Chnh-o lm cn-bn tu-hnh.

    Ba mi by phm-kinh u do hiu-thun lm cn-bn. Ngi thngnng n m tin ti xa c c ch thnh-tu u do t m nn; th-gian,la-m, cy-ci, rau c ngng ln tri u do t sanh.

    Na-Tin ni:

    - Th d nh v kin-trc-s xy ct thnh-th ln, phi lng-nh nn mngtrc, sau mi khi cng; th d nh ngi din tr mun trnh-din, trc

    phi dn t cho bng-phng ri mi din tr. Ch -t Pht cu o trcphi tun-hnh Gii, Kinh, nim iu thin, nhn v bit s kh-nhc th-gian nn mi dt b mi s ham-mun, m mt lng nim tm loi o-hnh.

    - Lm cch no dt b mi ham-mun?

    - Mt lng nim o, tc mi ham-mun t tiu-dit.

    Vng khen: ''Lnh thay! Lnh thay!''

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    032.- Tinh-tn l g?

    Vng li hi:

    - Tinh-tn l nh th no?

    - Gi iu lnh, gip cho iu lnh thm ln, l tinh-tn. Th-d nhtrong nc quc-vng c ni b cng-kch, Vng dn binh ra chng-c,

    binh yu chng c c, Vng lin cho thm binh tip-vin, nn c thng.Ngi c cc iu c cng nh binh yu, nu ngi bit gi lng lnh tiu-dit c-tm, cng nh Vng cho vin-binh thm chin-thng. Lng ginm iu thin, tiu dit nm iu bt-thin ca c-tm, cng nh chin-u

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    c thng vy. Tinh-tn tr gip cho iu lnh cng li nh th. Tinh-tntr-gip ngi tin n con ng lnh, hu c -thot, chng hon trli.

    Vng ngi khen: ''Lnh thay! Lnh thay!''

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    033.- Nim iu thin l phi lm sao?

    Vng li hi:

    - Tm ng nim cc iu thin l nh th no?

    - Th d nh ngi c nhiu bng hoa khc nhau, dng giy kt chung li

    thnh trng, gi thi chng ri-rng ra.

    Li v nh v quan ch kho vua bit r kho vua ang cn c bao nhiu vngbc, chu ngc, lu-ly, trn-bo.

    Ngi hc o mun c o th tm- nim ba mi by phm-kinh cngnh chnh l nim o cu i vy. Ngi c o-tm, nhn v hiu rnhvic thin-c, nn bit iu g nn lm, iu g chng nn lm, phn-bittrng en, t mnh suy-t t nay tr v sau, b iu c, theo iu lnh.

    Li th d nh i-Vng c ngi gi ca bit ai l ngi c Vua knh-n, ai l ngi chng c Vua knh-n, ai l ngi em li li cho Vua, ail ngi gy bt-li cho Vua. V quan y bit ai c Vua knh, ai em lili cho Vua, th lin cho vo; cn nhng ngi no chng c Vua knh,hoc gy bt-li cho vua, th chng cho vo. Ngi gi-gn tm- cng linh th, cc iu thin th cho vo, cc iu c th ngn li. Gi-gn , kmch tm l nh th .

    Na-Tin li ni Kinh: ''Ngi ang t gi-gn thn-tm kin-c khi su

    iu i-dc (=ham-mun), kin-tr tm-, l t mnh ang lo cu- choi.''

    Vng khen ngi: ''Lnh thay! Lnh thay!''

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    034.- Th no gi l nht-tm?

    Vng li hi:

    - Nht-tm c ngha ra sao?

    - Trong mi iu thin, nht-tm l vo bc cao nht. Ngi hay gi cnht-tm th mi iu thin u i theo . V nh lu-i, b ngc cn cch nng-ta dng ln, cc ngi lm lnh cng u da vo s nht-tm. Th-d nh cc tng-qun em bn o binh ra chin-u, binh civoi, binh ci nga, binh ngi xe, v b-binh, dn ra i chung quanh Vuatrc v sau. Cc Kinh Gii ca Pht v cc iu lnh cng u qui v nhttm, ging nh cc binh-chng i theo bn Vua.

    Na-Tin lin ni Kinh: ''Trong cc iu thin nht-tm lm cn-bn; ccngi hc o trc nht nn qui v nht-tm; thn ngi, sng cht, qu-kh, cng nh nc chy bn di, trc sau nng theo nhau, chng cthi tr li.''

    Vng khen: ''Lnh thay!''

    *

    035.- Tr-hu l nh th no?

    Vng li hi:

    - Tr-hu l nh th no?

    - Ti c ni trc ri, tr-hu c kh-nng ct t cc nghi-ng, lm sngt cc vic thin (...) V nh cm n i vo nh ti, nh la va vo nh th

    ph tan mn u-ti m sng rc ln. Ngi c tr-hu sng-t cng nh nhla. Li v nh ngi cm dao bn cht cy, ngi c tr-hu hay dit dtcc iu c, cng nh con dao bn. Ni th-gian, con ngi ly tr-hu lm

    iu quan-trng bc nht; ngi c tr-hu mi kh-nng vt thot cni kh sanh-t.

    Vng khen: ''Lnh thay!''

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    036.- Cc loi Kinh u dy iu thin nhm vo vic tn-dit cc iuc .

    Vng li hi:

    - Phi chng cc loi Kinh trc sau c dy nhiu iu khc nhau, nhngcng u chung mt hng l nhm dit tt c iu c?

    - D nhin, Kinh Pht dy nhiu loi thin nhng cng ch hng v nhmdit mi iu c. V nh Vng pht bn o binh ra i chin-u, lckhi hnh l cng-kch ch-qun, dit tt c mi iu c vy.

    Vng ngi khen: ''Lnh thay! Lnh thay! Na-Tin ni Kinh tht v-cngthch-th!''

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    037.- Ngi ti-sanh li th dng thn c, hay l c thn mi?

    Vng li hi:

    - Ngi cht ri i theo hng cc ng thin v c, c phi ly thn-tm csanh ra li, hay l dng thn-tm mi?

    - Cng chng phi ly thn-tm c sanh ra li, m cng chng phi li bthn-tm c.

    Na-Tin nhn lin hi Vua:

    - Thn ca Vng, thn lc nh cn b, n thn lc ln ln, c tip-tc thnc chng?

    - Thn lc cn nh th khc.

    - Con ngi lc cn trong bng m (...) thn khi mi tng hnh n lc thtxng cng-cp, thn t lc s-sanh n khi tui ln, u khc nhau c. Vnh c ngi hc sch, k ngi bn cnh c thay th m nhn ly cng hcsch khng?

    - Chng th nhn thay c.

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    - V nh ngi phm ti, c th ly ngi v-ti chu ti thay th cho mnhhay khng?

    - Chng th c.

    Na-Tin dng tinh-thn ti-php hi Vng, Vng chng hiu. Vnglin hi Na-Tin:

    - V nh c ngi hi Na-Tin nh vy, Na-Tin p li nh th no?

    - Thn ti lc b cho n khi ln vn tip-tc thn c; thn c ca hai thi-k c lc b v khi ln ln, cng u hm-cha mt thn c mng sngnui-dng. V nh ngi thp n, n c th chy t cho n sng haykhng?

    - n du th chy n sng.

    - nh n lc u hm, n na m, ch n sng, c phi l nh n lcva mi thp sng ln khng?

    - Chng phi l nh n c.

    - Ngn n lc u hm n na m c thp n mi khc khng, n gnsng c t ngn n khc khng?

    - Na m chng thp n khc, ch nh n c tip-tc chy n sng.

    - Tinh-thn con ngi c trin- chuyn (= pht-trin v bin-chuyn) tipni nhau nh th mi, cng ging nh vy; mt ci i th mt ci ti. Conngi tng theo tinh-thn t lc sanh ra cho ti gi, n khi cht tinh-thnli mt ln na hng v no sanh, ri trin-chuyn lin-tc mi. chng

    phi l tinh-thn c, m cng chng phi l li xa tinh-thn c. V nh sa,ly sa lm thnh kem, kem lm thnh b, ri b lm thnh ph-mt; nu cngi ni, c ly ph-mt, b, kem lm ra sa li, li ni c dng

    c chng?- Li ni ca k chng th dng c.

    - (...) T sa c kem, t kem c b, t b c ph-mt. Tinh-thn con ngicng li nh th; tng theo tinh-thn m sanh ra; tng theo sanh m ln lnn trng-thnh, tng theo trng-thnh m gi, ri cht; sau khi cht, tinh-

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    thn li mun sanh tr li. Mt thn cht mun c li mt thn, ging nhhai tim n ni nhau cng chy tip-tc.''

    Vng khen ngi: ''Lnh thay! Lnh thay!''

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    038.- Ngi ht ti-sanh c bit mnh chng sanh li i sau haykhng?

    Vng li hi Na-Tin:

    - C ngi chng sanh li i sau khng, v c t bit c vic chngsanh li y chng?

    - D nhin, c ngi nh th, t bit mnh chng cn ti sanh.

    - Lm sao bit c?

    - Ngi y t bit mnh chng cn quyn-luyn n-i, chng cn ham-mun,chng c iu c; nh bit mnh chng cn phi sanh li na.

    Th d nh ngi nng-phu trng la, c nhiu thc, tr li v sau,sang nm anh chng trng na, ch ly la d tr ra n. Ngi nng-phu yc mong c la go mi chng?

    - Ngi nng-phu y chng mong c la mi.

    - Ti sao bit ngi y li chng c la mi?

    - Ngi nng-phu y chng cy cy, chng trng la, th c ch mong cchi na.

    - Ngi c o cng li nh th, t bit rng dt b n-i, sng-kh,chng cn tham-tm, do bit r i sau chng sanh li.

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    039.- Kh-nng ca Tr-hu ra sao?

    Vng li hi:

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    - Bc c o chng sanh li i sau, i ny c c tr-hu khc hnvi ngi thng chng?

    - D nhin, c tr-hu khc hn ngi.

    - C c sng-sut chng?

    - D nhin, c c sng-sut.

    - Tr-hu vi sng-sut ging nhau hay khc nhau?

    - Tr-hu v sng-sut ging bng nhau.

    - Ngi c tr-hu v sng-sut c bit ht mun s-vt chng, hay c chcn cha hiu-bit kp?

    - Tr con ngi c ch hiu-bit kp, c ch chng kp.

    - Nhng g l kp hiu, nhng g l cn cha hiu kp?

    - Ngi thng bit r iu cha hc, iu cha kp hiu; v cng bit iu hc v iu hiu kp. Cn bc tr-gi thy r con ngi cng vn vtu phi qua i, qui v Khng, chng c s t-ti; v lng ham mun vui-sng m gieo trng ngun-gc ca Kh; bit nh th v tng theo m tin n Kh-Hu ( =Tr hiu r s Kh), bit r-rng s v-thng, sthnh-bi; cho nn tr-hu khc vi ngi thng.

    - Ngi c tr-hu ri th ngu-si vo u?

    - Ngi c tr-hu th ngu-si t tiu-dit ht. V nh ngi cm n votrong nh ti, phng sng ln, tc mn ti en b tiu-dit. Tr-hu cng linh vy, ngi c tr th ngu-si tt tiu-dit.

    - Th cn tr-hu ca tr-gi nay li u?

    - Ngi dng tr lm cng-vic, lm xong, tr-hu lin tiu-dit, nhngs-vic m tr-hu lm th cn . V nh ban m vit th bn n, vitxong tt n, nhng bc th cn .

    Bc tr-gi cng li nh th, lm xong vic lm, tr-hu lin tiu-dit,nhng vic lm thnh-tu vn tip-tc cn ti .

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    - Bo rng, tr-hu lm xong vic thnh, lin t tiu-dit, ngha nhth no?

    - V nh ngi kia phng-b la chy cha sn nm thng nc, khi c nnchy nh, lin em nm bnh nc nc ra cha la; la tt ri, ngicu-ha kia cn mun em nm bnh kia v nh na thi?

    - Ngi cu-ha dp tt la ri chng cn mun gi nm bnh (nc) lmchi na.

    - Tm ngi c-o gi nm iu thin dit xong cc iu xu-c, cngta nh nm bnh nc cu-ha dp tt la.

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    040.- Nm iu thin l nhng g?

    Vua lin hi Na-Tin:

    - Nm iu thin l nhng g?

    - Th nht l tin-tng c iu thin, iu c. Th hai l chng hy-phmgii-lut v Kinh-k. Th ba l tinh-tn. Th t l c tr-hu nim iu thin.Th nm l mt lng nim o. l nm iu thin. Ngi thng hay

    phng-hnh nm iu thin c tr-hu, lin bit thn ngi v vn-vtu v-thng, bit kh chng c t-ti, bit tnh Khng rng-rang chngc g. V nh ng thy thuc dng nm v thuc em n nh ngi bnh,cho bnh-nhn ung thuc, bnh c bt, ri khi, th ng thy c cn dngnm v thuc c m cho ngi y ung na khng?

    - Ht bnh ri cn cho ung thuc c lm g na?

    - Nm v thuc cng nh tr gi nm iu thin; ng thy thuc cng nhngi cu o; cn bnh cng nh cc iu c; ngu-si nh l bnh-nhn;

    ngi c-o cu i nh bnh lnh. Tr thnh-tu ni ngi, angi n ch cu i. Ngi c-o ri, tr cng t dit. Li v nh vinkin-tng mang nm mi tn tin ln hng v ch-qun bn xong cthng; v y c mong nm mi tn quay li mang v khng?

    - u c mong tn quay v li lm chi.

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    - Nm mi tn cng nh nm iu thin ca tr-hu . Ngi tng theo tr m c o, ging nh v kin-tng c-thng qun ch. Cc iu cnh cc no c-o (trong cnh Lun-hi). Ngi gi nm iu thin dit-tr cc iu c; khi cc iu c dit, tr lnh pht-sanh, ngi tng theotr lnh m c o cu i, tr nn thng-ti, bt-dit.

    Vng khen ngi: ''Lnh thay!''

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    041.- V sao bc c-o cn sng li phi chu kh?

    Vng li hi Na-Tin:

    - Nh ngi c o, chng phi sanh li i sau, c cn phi chu cnhkh na khng?

    - Hoc cn phi chu kh, hoc chng cn phi kh na.

    - Th no l cn phi chu kh, l chng phi chu kh na?

    - Thn cn chu kh, tm- ht chu kh. S d thn cn phi chu kh l vtrong hin-ti thn cn l ngun-gc ca s kh; tm- s d ht kh l v dt b tt c cc iu c, chng cn ham-mun chi, cho nn chng phichu kh na.

    - Nu nh ngi c o chng th li thn kh ny, th l cha c co N-Hon (=Nit-bn) chng? Ngi c o chng cn n-i, m thncn kh, du tm- an-n, th s c o lm g? Nu nh ngi co thnh-cng, th v c g m cn lu li y?

    - Th d nh trn cy, tri cn cha chn th chng vi hi, nn i cho chnmui. i- Vng c bit li ni ca i-c X-l-vit (Pali: Sariputta =X-li-pht) chng? X-l-vit lc cn sng c ni: ''Ti chng cu cht, ti

    cng chng cu sng, ti ch ch ng thi ra i th ra i.''Vng khen ngi: ''Lnh thay! Lnh thay!''

    Kinh T-kheo Na-TinHt Quyn Thng

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    A.- Bn Phng-dch

    Quyn Trung

    042.- Ba loi cm-th: vui, kh, chng vui chng kh.

    Vng hi Na-tin:

    - Con ngi cm thy vui, th thin hay l bt-thin? Con ngi cm thykh, th thin hay bt-thin? c Pht h chng c ni, c vui hoc c kh.

    Nu nh khin cho c m lm ra chng c, th kh hay khng?

    Na-Tin hi li Vng:

    - Nh thanh st nung , c ngi tay cm ly th b phng chng; li cmmt hn bng trong tay, bng c lm phng tay ngi chng?

    - D nhin, c hai tay u b phng.

    - Nh th, trong hai tay u nng c chng?

    - Chng nng c hai.

    - Hoc c hai u lnh ht chng?

    - Chng lnh c hai.

    Na-Tin bo: ''C hai tay u nng c. Ti mun hi k i-Vng, hai lntrc, sau, c hai u nng, th nn ni c hai u nng; c hai u lnh thnn ni c hai u lnh, c sao Vng li bo chung, mt nng, mt lnh mcng lm cho tay ngi b phng?

    Vng ni: ''Tr-c Ta cn thin-cn qu, chng sc hiu kp vic khny. Nguyn Na-Tin v Ta m gii-thch cho.

    Na-Tin ni:

    - Kinh Pht c ni n vic : thng c su vic khin con ngi mngbn trong; c su vic khin con ngi ru bn trong; li cng c su vickhin con ngi chng mng cng chng ru; v bn ngoi li cng c suvic khin con ngi bun ru.

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    a.- Su vic khin vui trong lng .

    - Th no l su vic khin con ngi vui bn trong?

    - Mt l mt c ch thy, ri li c ch mong-cu, cho nn khin cho con

    ngi vui trong lng. Hai l tai nghe ting tt li c ch mong cu, cho nnkhin con ngi vui trong lng. Ba l mi ngi mi thm li c ch mong-cu, cho nn khin con ngi vui trong lng. Bn l li c mn ngon lic ch mong-cu, cho nn khin con ngi vui trong lng. Nm l thn ngchm n ch trn lng li c ch mong-cu, cho nn khin con ngi vuitrong lng. Su l tm c cm-th vui li c ch mong-cu, cho nn khincon ngi vui trong lng. Nh th, l su vic khin cho con ngi vuitrong lng.

    b.- Su vic bn ngoi khin vui.- Th no l su vic bn ngoi khin con ngi c vui?

    - Mt l mt thy sc p, nh li iu chng th thng c, nn phidt b i, t suy-ngh hiu-bit l v-thng, cho nn khin con ngivui v bn ngoi. Hai l tai nghe ting tt, nh li iu chng th thngc, nn phi dt b i, cho nn khin con ngi vui v bn ngoi. Ba lmi ngi mi thm, nh li iu chng th thng c, nn phi dt bi, cho nn khin con ngi vui v bn ngoi. Bn l ming c mn ngon,

    nh li iu chng th thng c, nn phi dt b i, cho nn khincon ngi vui v bn ngoi. Nm l thn ng chm ch trn lng, nh liiu chng th thng c, nn phi dt b i, cho nn khin con ngivui v bn ngoi. Su l tm nh ngh n iu thng-mun, suy-ngh niu l v-thng, nn dt b c, sau khi nh ngh nh vy lin khi lnvui. l su s-vic khin cho con ngi vui v bn ngoi.

    c.- Su vic bn trong khin bun.

    - Th no l su s-vic bn trong khin cho lng ngi ru?

    - Mt l mt phi nhn vo ch chng mun thy, khin cho bn trong bun.Hai l tai phi nghe iu chng mun c nghe, khin bun lng. Ba l michng a ch thi m phi ngi mi hi, khin cho bng bun-b. Bn lming chng mun nm mn m phi nm khin cho bng chng vui.

    Nm l thn chng mun ng n vt m phi chm ly khin lng ru-

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    r. Su l tm chng c iu vui m phi ngh n khin cho d su. lsu s-vic khin cho bn trong lng ngi bun-ru.

    d.- Su vic bn ngoi khin chng vui.

    - Th no l su s-vic khin cho ngi chng mng?

    - Mt l mt thy sc xu-c khin lng chng vui. Hai l tai nghe ting c-c khin lng chng vui. Ba l mi ngi mi hi-thi khin lng chng vui.Bn l li nm v cay ng khin lng chng vui. Nm l thn mc thcng khin lng chng vui. Su l tm c iu on ght khin lng chngvui. l su s-vic bn ngoi khin lng ngi chng vui mng.

    e.- Su vic khin chng vui chng bun.

    - Th no l su vic khin lng ngi chng bun, m cng chng vui?

    - Mt l mt nhn thy iu chng bun li chng vui. Hai l tai nghe tingchng bun cng chng vui. Ba l mi ngi mi chng bun cng chng vui.Bn l ming nm v chng bun cng chng vui. Nm l thn c ch ng-chm chng bun cng chng vui. Su l tm ngh n vic chng bun mchng vui. l su s-vic bn trong khin cho lng ngi chng bun mcng chng vui.

    f.- Su vic bn ngoi khin cho bun lng.- Th no l su vic bn ngoi khin cho ngi bun?

    - Mt l khi mt thy ci cht, lng t ngh l thn ngi cng vn-vt uv-thng, k y t ngh, mnh c c -nim m sao cn cha co, l nguyn-nhn bn ngoi gy ra su. Hai l khi tai nghe ting tt,lng chng mng; k y t ngh, mnh c c -nim c sao cncha c-o, l nguyn-nhn bn ngoi gy ra su. Ba l mi chng vui

    bun vi mi thm mi thi; k y t ngh, mnh c -nim c sao cn

    cha c-o, l nguyn-nhn bn ngoi gy ra su. Bn l ming chngnm ng ngt; k y t ngh, mnh c -nim c sao cn cha c-o, l nguyn-nhn bn ngoi gy ra su. Nm l thn chng ham-thchch trn-lng cng chng bt-mn vi ch th-cng; k y t ngh, mnh c c -nim y c sao cn cha c-o, l nguyn-nhn bn ngoigy ra su. Su l tm chng vui vi s ham-mun; k y t ngh, mnh

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    c -nim c sao cn cha c-o, l nguyn-nhn bn ngoi gy rasu. y l su s-vic bn ngoi khin lng ngi tr nn su.

    Vng khen ngi: ''Lnh thay! Lnh thay!''

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    043.- Khi cht ri, ai sanh tr li?

    Vng li hi Na-Tin:

    - Con ngi cht ri, khi sanh li i sau l ai vy?

    - Danh (= tm-thn) v Thn (= thn-th ) sanh li i sau.

    - Danh c v Thn c ca ngi y sanh li chng?

    - Chng phi nh vy. Chng phi Danh c, cng chng phi Thn c gily thn-tm ny i nay lm iu thin c cho n i sau, m sanh ra liu.

    - Nh khin dng thn-tm ny lm iu thin, iu c i ny ri i sauchng sanh li, th c ht sc lm iu thin, iu c cng c thot ht,chng phi chu kh li na hay sao?

    - Ni i ny lm iu thin, th i sau chng sanh li na, lin c gii-thot. Cn ngi chng ngng lm iu thin, iu c th phi sanh li vsau, cho nn chng c gii-thot. Th-d nh c ngi n trm tri da;ngi ch b mt trm bt k y em li trnh vi Vng: ''Anh ny ly trmtri ca ti.'' Anh n trm ci li: ''Ti u c ly trm tri ca anh. Ch anhtrng l trng cy nh, vn u phi l anh trng tri da; ti hi tri dath lm g l n trm; ti chng h trm da ca anh ta, th c ti g?'' Haingi tranh-ci nh th, th ai phi, ai quy?

    - Ngi trng cy, phi; v vn to ra cy trng; ngi trm tri th quy,chng ci c, phi chu ti.

    - V sao anh n trm c ti?

    - S d tn trm c ti l v cn-bn l ngi trng cy, c cy th mi sanhra tri ch.

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    - i ngi cng li nh th. Ngi i nay dng thn-tm ny lm iuthin, iu c, cho n khi sanh li vo i sau, th thn-tm lm thin-c i ny l cn-bn vy. Li v nh c ngi trm la thc ca ngi khc;ngi ch bt, lin ni: ''Anh n trm thc lu ca ti.'' K trm thc ni:''Ti chng trm thc ca anh. Anh t trng la; ti t gt thc, ti lm gm phm ti trm.'' Hai ngi lin dn nhau n trnh Vng. Nh th, ai

    phi ai quy?

    - Ngi trng la, phi; cn k trm thc th quy.

    - Sao li bit k trm thc l quy?

    - Ngi trng la th phi, v trng la l cn-bn, nu chng trng la, thlm sao m c ra thc c.

    - i ngi cng li nh th. Ngi i nay dng thn-tm ny lm iuthin-c cho n khi sanh li vo i sau, th do thn ny lm cn-bn vy.Li th-d na, nh vo ma ng lnh-lo, ngi kia t la ln si chom, ri ln ln b m i. La bt chy vch, tng ri lan sang lu nhngi khc. Ch nh ny li ngi t la kia li trnh Vng: ''Anh ny tla chy sang lu nh ti.'' K t la ci: ''Ti t la nh-nh sim; ti u c thiu t nh lu.'' i-Vng x ai phi, ai quy?

    - K t la, quy; vn do cn-bn t la mi sanh chy nh.

    - i ngi cng li nh th, ngi i nay dng thn-tm ny lm iuthin-c cho n i sau sanh li th thn-tm ny chnh l cn-bn vy. Licn th-d khc na, nh ban m mt ngi t uc sng ln, gn vch, n cm; uc t t chy lan ln vch ri gp tre trc cy g lin thiu cngi nh; la bng ln chy to thiu hy c thnh-ph. Dn chng trongthnh cng la-ht ngi t uc: ''C g m my li t chy c thnh-phnh vy?'' Ngi kia ni: ''Ti ch t ngn uc nh c nh-sng m ncm; thnh chy l ti la ln kia, ch no phi la ca ti.'' Nh th htranh-ci nhau, a nhau n trc n vua. i-Vng x ai phi, ai quy?

    - K t uc c ti.

    - V sao bit k y c ti?

    - Cn-bn la sanh chy to l do tn ny n cm xong chng dp tt uc,khin la bng ln chy ri c thnh.

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    - i ngi cng li nh th, ngi i nay dng thn-tm ny lm cc iuthin-c cho n i