Karaka Bhava Nasa

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Karaka Bhava Nasa

by JupiterLight Fri May 27, 2011 5:32 am

I see the reference in The Crux of e!ic "stro#o$y % Timin$ of &'ents(

"ny i!ea )hat this theory is about*

+ara-a is ba! for the .ha'a +

/asa estruction e!uction

4un % oo! in 6th

u8iter % oo! in 2n!4aturn % oo! in 9th

enus % oo! in 7th

This topic is mentioned in other books too, like in Hart de Fouw & Robert Svoboda's.

The Karaka can be bad for the house, when it is a maor si!ni"cator and it is in that

ver# house $ %'m sa#in! maor si!ni"cator because the planets are karakas for so

man# thin!s that we onl# consider them as one or two maor si!nifcators in this

principle.

hat the house e(periences is too much of that si!ni"cation, which spoils it $ it

mi!ht look oka# from the outside but it's no !ood from the inside.

To !ive a few karakas under the li!ht of this principle)

$Sun in the *th for the father + too much of the father b# his absence or his

presence

$oon in the -th for the mother

$upiter in the /th for children + too much creativit# that overwhelms the desire for

children 0 can !ive a !ifted childless teacher for e(ample

$upiter in the 11th for elder siblin!s

$ars in the 2rd for #oun!er siblin!s

$3enus in the 4th for the spouse + too much sensualit# 0 the husband$wife is toobeautiful 0 a spouse that is too materialistic 555 3enus in 6avamsa la!na does the

same thin!

$Saturn in 17th for sorrow + too much deprivation

These karakas don't work ver# well in that position. hat the karaka is ma# be

!iven to be taken awa# at a later sta!e or not !iven at all, or lookin! oka# on the

outside but not doin! well at all on the inside $somethin! dies.
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8s with ever#thin! in 3edic, one factor like this one, 9:;S 6:T have a "nal sa#.

when 3enus occupies its own rasi here it is considered an e(ception from that

principle and is considered !ood for marria!e

Here is an article sent to me......e(aminin! and refutin! one of the bi!!er m#ths,

sometimes creatin! irrational dread.... in our astrolo!#.

Re!ards

K=6? @ HashimotoDs disease?, and the fairl# common disorder known as

rheumatoid arthritis are e(amples of such senseless destruction that the bod#

sometimes

en!a!es in. hen the Karaka turns a!ainst the ver# bhava that it is supposed to

support

and promote, a similar situation can be visualiEed.

=efore we label such a Karaka insane or self$destructive and head towards our "rst$

aid

bo( of astro$remedies, perhaps we should e(amine the disease itself a bit more The

"rst

Buestion obviousl# arises as to the source of this ada!e. The small treatise,


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C=havartha

RatnakaraG penned b# Sri Ramanuachar#a and beautifull# translated b# Sri =.3.

Raman

holds certain interestin! ada!es re!ardin! Karakas. %n the 7nd hapter >8tha

9hana#o!a

3icharah?, sloka number * clearl# states) %f the diIerent Karakas are present in theirrespective bhavas, such bhavas lose vitalit# and !ive rise to ver# little of their

indications. %n the notes that follow,


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totall# destructive =hav 6ash.

So far we have onl# talked about Karakas in a !eneric and non$speci"c sense.

=4 or J planets ranked in

order

of their lon!itudes in a !iven si!n to #ield the ran!e of charakarakas from

8tmakaraka to

9arakaraka?N Sthira Karakas which are constant from chart to chartN the bhava

karaka

>karaka bhavas bein! speci"c houses from a !iven planet?N the #o!akarakas, and

the

karakas for houses >the karakas used popularl# in contemporar# #otish?.

%. H8R8 K8R8K8S) 38RO FR: H8RT T: H8RT

%n the order of diminishin! lon!itudes in a !iven si!n, the chara karaka desi!nation

renders a planet to be labelled)8tmakaraka

8mat#akarka

=hratrikaraka

atrikaraka

missin! from the 4 karaka scheme?


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Son from Saturn

ife, father, mother, father in law and motherDs father from ketu.

There are some overlaps and some possibilit# of confusion, as readers will note

%%%. =H838 8S K8R8K8S

The ninth bhava from Sun denotes oneDs fatherThe fourth from oon denotes oneDs mother

The third from ars denotes oneDs brother

The si(th from ercur# denotes oneDs maternal uncle

The "fth from upiter denotes oneDs sons

The seventh from 3enus denotes oneDs wife

The ei!hth from Saturn denotes death and pitras >deceased ancestors?

%3. O:P8 K8R8K8S

1, -, 4 or 1Qth? become karakas. :f these, the planet in

the 1Qth

is the most si!ni"cant karaka.

%t must be noted that if planets in own, e(alted or friendl# si!ns are in mutual

an!les >but

not from the ascendant?, the# are still considered as Oo!akarakas >SharmaDs notes

discuss

this?.

3. K8R8K8S S%P6%F%86T F:R 38R%:S H:S;S >% to %%?)

Sunupiter

ars

oon

upiter

ars

3enus

Saturn

upiter

ercur#

upiterSaturn

more in part$2

%t is not reall# clear in te(ts known to me which of these t#pes of K8R8K8s is it that

destro#s its house b# bein! present in the house it is supposed to stren!then,

represent


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and sustain. Since MbhavaD is clearl# indicated in the ada!e, some ma# think that it

makes

sense to focus on the bhava karakas alone for this consideration. This would prett#

much rule out the classes % to %3 enumerated above. There is also a variant karaka

s#stem

that ascribes one or more than one planet to a bhava, the rationale !iven for thatbein!

that each bhava has man# indications and needs more than one Karaka to full#

represent

it. The lo!ic would make sense but is rendered tenuous because the classi"cation is

not

e(haustive to cover all the attributes of an# !iven house and thus remains

tentative, at

best.

8 proposal that has been sounded from time to time is that if the karaka is present

in its

house and if aIected b# male"c inuences then the summation of male"c

inuences on

the karaka as well as the house it is supposed to stren!then would be detrimental.

This

does make sense, obviousl#. 8nother related issue ma# be that in most of the

ordinar#

charts that most of us #otishis !ives readin!s for, most planets are probabl#

alread#

aIected adversel# and are not ver# bene"c or stron!, overall. This ma# be e(actl#

what

is makin! these nativities re!ular and ordinar#. 8n otherwise aIected or notoptimall#

functionin! karaka would be like a tired horse that even if #oked to its cart >placed

in the

house it is supposed to pull out of miser#? will be of Buestionable help

Finall#, % would like those readers who are not averse to e(perimentation, to also

consider e(aminin! the MmirrorD bhavas, or padas as described in Raman 8#anamsha $7J min.,

savanamana

#ear for dasha?.;8


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to MpinD this one on combustion, particularl# since venus is in the house of its

atishatru

and with the atishatru bein! ri!ht there. 8nd, it does not help matters when we see

that

that house also holds the pada for the 4th house. :ther ne!ative factors e(ist too,

thenotable one bein! rahu who is the darakaraka >kalatrakaraka since this is a

womanDs

chart? and placed in the Jth house which happens to hold the upapada %ncidentall#,

if we

were to use a 4 karaka scheme, then mercur# would become the kalatrakaraka and

bein!

stron!l# and happil# placed in e(altation and stren!th, aspected b# a swa!rahi

upiter in

"fth, this would not be concordant with the actual e(perience. The marria!e be!an

to fall

apart in Rahu dasha, upiter bhukti >8u! *Q to 9ec *7? after childbirth and continued

to

!et worse in saturnDs bhukti >9ec *7 to :ct */? and brou!ht several romantic

relationships. 6eurolo!ical disorders surfaced in mercur#Ds bhukti >:ct */ to 8pril

*J?.

ercur# rules over the nervous s#stem and is the lord of Jth house >chronic

illnesses? and

is placed with lord of th mars. ercur# is also !natikaraka and has association with

sickness. 9r. harak has observed that retro!rade planets lead to ph#sical ailments.

The

placement of retro!rade upiter in the "fth, aspected b# mars and mercur# >b# !rihaand

rashi drishtis bein! in dual si!ns? aUrms the tar!et s#stem >brain? as well as raises

the

possibilit# that perhaps the deterioration started in upiter bhukti and "nall# was

dia!nosed in mercur# bhukti. Some of the relationship issues and other behavioural

problems could have been the manifestation of the disease itself. %nterested readers

ma#

wish to e(amine some transits inuencin! the natal rahu and transit rahu >dasha

lord?

durin! the period between autumn of 1**7 and mid$1**- when the most dramaticpart of

the happenin!s !ot pla#ed.

sin! the 8strodatabank database >ver. 2?, containin! hi!h Bualit# data >cate!or# 8

or

hi!her? for human births, we have 1/41 charts with upiter in "fth house. :f these,

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had more than 2 children whereas 14 had no children. There were 7-* in the

database

with no children and 7 with V 2 children, a ratio of 1)7./1. The comparable ratio

in the

subset with upiter in the "fth house was 1)2.17. There is thus a sli!htl# hi!her

prevalence >12W hi!her? of people with more than 2 children in the subset withupiter in

"fth house, as opposed to the bi!!er test population. The important point here is

that

there are people with more than 2 children despite havin! putrakaraka upiter in the

"fth

house nfortunatel#, the database does not allow one to check out similar stats for

chara

karakas but it sure would have been of interest to pit one t#pe of karaka a!ainst the

other

7. hildless Q-Q 7Q 6ov. 1*7/) 6ote in this leo risin! chart that upiter and venus

the

chara putrakaraka as well as the lord of 17th house placed in the "fth. as it the

upiter

that destro#ed the bhava or the charakarakas aided b# the lord of 17th >loss?A 6ote

that

upiter is swa!rahi 8dditionall#, !ulika in the house of kutumba >7nd? is certainl#

not

helpful in the matter of !rowth of oneDs famil#. The individual e(perienced rahu

dasha

from a!e 77 till -Q !enerall# the child$bearin! period in a woman. This was followed

b#upiter dasha. :ne wonders if upiter dasha had run earlier in life, it ma# have been

able

to !ive a child, despite the K=6 dosha

6ow let us look at the opposite side of the stor#.

2. Five kids 24* 7 ar. 1*7J) She had "ve kids. =ene"cial and unblemished

putrakaraka upiter is placed in the "fth. hara putrakaraka rahu is placed in the 4th

aspected b# Saturn but essentiall# has no contact with the "fth house. K=6 did not

appl#.

-. Four kids /--1 7 8u! 1*71) This is an interestin! chart of a ver# accomplished

lad#astrolo!er, teacher, writer who had four children, each of them makin! si!ni"cant

contributions to the "eld of astrolo!#. The "fth lord is involved in a stron! kendra

trikona #o!a which also happens to be a powerful budha adit#a #o!a well in keepin!

with

her scholastic, astro$literar# accomplishments as well as of the children. 6ot onl#

does

this Buestion the occasional practice of appl#in! rules mindlessl# and in isolation,


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namel#, in this case) that the lord should not be placed in the 17th from its house,

but it

also Buestions the K=6 dosha 6ot onl# is upiter the putrakaraka placed in the "fth

house, but also the chara putra karaka rahu is in the "fth house. 8s if that was not

enou!h, Saturn the natural male"c is also placed there. Readers please note that

Saturn inthis vrishabha risin! chart is a #o!akarka, since it rules the dharma and karma

houses.

Some individuals consider the lord of badhaka house >*th in this case? as male"c.

:bviousl# that is another Buestionable blemish. Saturn the badhakadhipati in this

case

helped ourish the house as opposed to hinderin! it.

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