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. JU•· .•. ~~, ..... . M ..... , ,q .u-...... J:•'- ..... thq ·.· ·s·.

wen ta aehMl 'ec•O. t.a the Oaaa41aa .leal..,. IU vaa -.n la Tla4l--_: .. . ·._. . . ·. .

yea\ok ef . a Juaalaa t.tn\uaat Oelo .. l .· la the J't:nt" V~s-14 YU" • the - · . d \

. ...,.,,. ... _,,. ... ,. Oolllac •• ~~.k., _, l ... U&,~lT •• •lll'llohl""..,. hc:;Je-d llYel .b~ tHa a\n.t 1912 tll(tllq·U4 te lea•• Blnal• •' the ,, .. · ·

- 2 rrttii~ ef \he a\eale bea'lt. lila• Peldhlbft ne ta Btroehl• &D.4 vlll tall hd

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fellv.e Ju' vba\ b&ppne4 \ba.' 4q1 the thl~~p tba\ follovK attu··; · -~- :~~· ~,. ~ . : · i ,·.:::.~

waif}:;:~;~ boo wu 4ftppe4 a\ a.\ou' ·• :~•r '• ;-~•latat. It waa ~ .· -··· <- -; ; .

~·{~ n..... I ~ellen, _, I 4lda'' notloe II' haYI 'lae .. aettoe::. ·_ ·:· . ~ . . -::(?<~.::.:>~:·j~· -< ·- ~~ : · . ·-· - · ~;·;~:. ;;: /: .~ ,_:: .. .

at'l·· ·~ all abn\ ..... _\he t1&ah oaae, the hoo.ae U.blet aA»wa ;: · .' ~_:'_ ~ ->~:~:.J. ;- :::· .. .. ·.·. ,. '

.. , •• ~ ,·Well, J'G'& oaa Ju•' lucia• hn lt all happeae4 beoau.ae va bal.

H \l .. eTD 'e tlee ,. the all' ahelten, alr ra14 aheltll'la 01' IY­

\e aC-outa. Well, IV' aother oalle4 to ae, woa4.ere4 where· t vae an£·

I anavere4 baok. Ia tthe uke4 ., 4a4 were he vaa, ut he vu un411' . . .

a ~ll wbtOh fell on hl~. Aaa. thea ., 11\tle br-other-.. outalda ant . .

I V... la flhe roea. I 4on1t remeaber what I vaa dolq exac\17, llu.'

arqwq · aea abe found th&\ eYertbo47 vaa a&te, •• :ruabe4 cn1talu te aee

what 1\ ..... all abou,. 1k1len ve vat ou.talde we 4141l't ha.Ye to look

tewara.. \he \ova, lmt lf "'' onl7 looke4 arOUD.4 eur houae, there wen

people eta.rtlzac \e oema 0t1\, aoae bl'1llae4, aome vou.nde4, aome bu'ae4. . · ·

!hn ve leoked. tow tovar4a the tow aat ve aaw tt tlamlDC• aa4 the

\hlac \hat oau&ht rq qe vaa the cutle lN.nllD£, fiamea ooraU& •' ··:.- :-.

\he vtaa.on. !he reaaoll I aaw tha.\ YU bec&WII lt la blsher thea . .. . • . • ,;. r....~ . . -- ~ -

87 ~the.r bullcU.nc la the \ova. · the ar tather uked ua ;vha' we woull 4. ~

ll~• .. \a ·Ao\ ae he 414a'\ bo~ .b\' the· "boa'b· vaa like. ai\4 he ·thoU&\\ . • • # .. -~

1\ ' v&ii J11a\ aa er41D.U7, 'bo11ll. · !'hen' aother aalA, vall• .· we111. leaYe l\

te tate anA Ju•' follow t.he road aa4 •• ve took a little "bac were

we b&t ·oul' ban4agea u4 ua.lallle an4 a bl\ et rlae. !ha' vaa aU ••

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oU aa'oalahaa' bDDIH4a •t pec.ple •- at\el' •• aD4 we ~obi. .• , :

· \baa P4 n ._ aepoee, .,_., ucn•-theJ' wes-a•t lapae.._..,. ·

·· were uaro••• ad I aftl4 thaa 1 Vhat Jsappnect to ,..., lfut'a \he

· . .. ,, • ., wltila 7Rf1 aD4 \he7 ealAa •we eav the f1aala u4 \Jde t~ 'Ua. ·. oolozo ve tanK. • Well, I 414a • \ take \tal to aak bn lt aU

happeaecl, lnl.' aJq¥87 VI veat funhezo u4 there were people wou4et.

· Teq 'badlT vo1m484 w1Ul, I 4oa1 t Jmow, ..,. beaa1 fallbc n Uaea.

· M4 I !wal'4 eoaeou MreaaiJaC fi'Oa u4er a ~aoue. I trW to pall '

her out, 'bat I enlc!JL1t. It vae bpoeatble. I Jut - a laaa& aJd

: · ·i 'bo¥ lt val a voaaa' • had. I ooal4.a• t plolt her oa\. It wae .,a • .._ :.- ·hAM vl~ eo •• oa top ef her. It vae tapoeelble. ftn wha. ..

· etanea up the aoutat.a. we 4t4A't toUow \M I'Oa4 'Moau.M the rod

· waa Ol"ovdecl wlth people, ooal4a1 t pae1 lt. !be IIOV.Iltalu wen •tarttzac

· \o 'bura all aroua4, the elv vae ablaae. Well, aJ11Y87 we· vat hr\heJ' ·

and. tur\bar tor about he hove. Oa ~ · vq ve ut ...,. people

n.ffers.Dt;, dTb& ott, bu\ aJJ7Wq, ti.Dal.~ ve naohe4 the ha.pl\al, a

alll\aq ho8p1\al. U vaa n.pp0Ml to be Jut a eohool, but 1\ vu

\1••4 ae a aS.lttaq hoepl\al ta caee of heaT7 atr ral4e. Vell, n

4th1\ know. that. Ye arrina there, lnlt we uw 'b7 \lw ark \ha\ 1\

· vae a boepltal, 10 we vet ta. J9 bta.l. vae achlDC llke U7Ul1BC --

beoauae a bed ba4. fallea on ae ana there vae a btc acar aaa bloo4

. fallla& oTer -q taoe. Motur1 a trhoulcl.er vaa voua!d too. IT fa\bal'

ani llt\le 'bro.UI' veren1 \ vov.JI4M at all. ht n nre tenlbl7 ts.r.t. /

·~u•.' .. all ov.t, fatt.ped eo VI 4eot4e4 ~aka a reet, M\ I ooul41l'.'

. reat. ·. There vere tho .. people vhllllBC .;,.., , croaatAc aD4 aakbc fol'. ---: //

. , ba.Ye '~hbc acat.D.a\ thea or tor \bn, 10 I \hoqh\ I alcht Jut at

· . '~~11 hel:p \hea, beaau.ae \bq wen Jua\ people. lo I ,.., ner \o U. .. · . . .. . "---·---

4oo\orl aD4 IDU'e•• vho were Terr tfltl, of ccro.ne. Aa4 tbq M14a

1 Wh&' 1da4 of ••4lc1M a. 7aG- \hlDk we abnl4 p\ oal lfe 4oa'' ~ ·-.....__ ___ ..

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AD1 tua \hq edt, •fell, •tatt la all we'n pt. eaaa of oaatol'

oll ad. .. raa.roorou. It ~.,. •Mftl aercvoOl"OM onl' the ..

buaa u4 tlan la\eJI tbe;r neanl oaa\ol' oU. ftle n .. oa \U,

.,..ue~ oattott oll , .. 'Moon thq thoqht thq nre ~·' or41DarJ

hni •• ..a thl;r 4l4a1\ Ci" ~"T .., ,.,... .... tboqh \hq

asket fol' water ••rt \&417. Vall, ••• people pTe .... va\er uA

•• eooa •• tU7 &aft water to th-. t.hq YOal\el l' all 011\ d4

\bq14 bep oa waltlq utll tM7 .41e4. Bloe4 wall no wt a4·

· · · \hAt 'wa~ U.. ft4 •t thea. lo the loo\er eait.a '*u'' &tn wa\•r

1Ua4el' . ...., crt.nuae,u.Me.• I •b7e& tllwe fol' be dqa.

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\. Ooall 7ft a. .. rllae tM aatue ot tho• lluael l thlak the 4.oot,l'

voull \a ""' IIU1l bterea\.&.

A• !he 'bun• wan of the eolol'--at X aa14, people .1Ut ftl'utl the

· eolol' ot ucro••· 'lba''• the Marett I oaa get \o lt, aa4 tM

' ,. ·~ ~lcl Jll•' pMl ott-eoal Y01114 peel ott Yl'rJ" \hlcld7 aJl4 aolle

. Ye~- th1Bl.;r-a'lll the tblcbl' \be pMlbc1 .\he VOl'.. \he vou4, of

: . ·. eour••· lo~ of' thea J'CRI eoi\14 ... the lnlraa. !M eye a · cloee4,

&Dl \be DO .. 'blM, ~~ llpl .,.lle4 aal the 8.1\1"1 •elle4., an4 the

whole hsa4 etartt4 ..,.lltq. :a, a'boat 'wo or three hova, the

whole heal we11ec1-Jlo\ lD a aloe abape, but lnll.cr. 1'he:a \here

. . wen other kta4t Of paU.en\a. be 'W'OUJidecl v1 \h froaeture4 •n• sn4

lecil~· Ad \he Ulaura, ~mea va\er blla\era vhlch baa \o be

punoturel. thea there vera tpll' e\osac.bea, \he hteeU.nee Ollt-

.. vou14 ooae nt, u4 the traetur.& e1mlla ana eo fortll. After ve

· ·'tread& tb.a v01UMI•• \baa oa \M .. ocm4 4q the~ vo1ll.4. beCOM

YV7 411'\7 ul. thq ••1 \ YePT h&. !he wholl alr, no the ail'

.; anv.D4 \he hoapl'al ... lt .,e17 \at. the vou4 would 'becoae 7•11 ..

Ia oolor aal \Jae71& co cteeper P4 leepel'. Bo aatter bow •all 7011. . :· ·

.· trle4 to tab off thl yellow nt\ea neu. It vou14 ~·' ,.

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bePttl' ua4 &..-1'. Ad I 4oa'\ W.ak l\ palul \Jwa n17 -a. ·

I loa'' 'ht!ak the llvas CJW• \ua pala -. ....... vJlaa ;rn touhel ·

th• wl ~ ptaura or aiQ"tlllD& \he7 vee Slllledlat.'17 uooa .. lou .

fol' all I bow. Ve apea\ \vo 4a.J• u4 \hea we preoeeb4 to a 11\,le

coUac- where we •wet for tw or thJ'ee 4qe, IIAJ)e aore~ ·s. ·~·· ', . . · ~ -.

ifaore, .. tll th8 16th vhea tha Jlaperor pva hla 4echloa abo.~\

•rreU..rlDc. AD& thea. ve ver.e takeD. to a U.ttla coutqalde 11.p

1a \ba acnultama from where I cou DOW.

~ lilll 101l tell •• about tho•• people whoae bo41ea \urucl peat

A. !here nre a'ba' fnr 4Uferell\ kb4• of pa\la.'•· !he oM a \Ita\ · - •. . . '

41• ott vUhla \vo 01" three 4qa. '.rhe;r clle4 becm•• of beaYT. bu'aa.

lf people ver-a ln1.r1le4 MH tlwa ou-thld of \he \oq, ao•' of 'bea

4la4. thea there were kbla of patlenta that llva4 for aq'ba a ••k.

!hq 4le4 fi'Oa lJihallac the cs•. l \ht.Dk, ad thetr bean veakead,

· · d4 the7 41a4 of exbarlatloa, I ahoul4 aq. '1hea there va• a 1d.a4 ot

patlc\ \hat 11....a. throup the bun.. !halr burnt &O' wall, but la a

aoath'• U.• \he7 14 fbi \heir h&lr fallbc out an! a var~ hlp . . .

tgperatun, e.n4 their thro&\a vould become ve1'7 eore u4 tb8,.•4. · ·

\1arn Te'f7 pale creeiL aa4 thea the7'4 cUe oft. An4 then there'• •

fifth ca\epJ7 where the)- •aT that paopla that have beea ill the uea

of \hl• boa\, two kllonter• la ct.rclJiltereace cannot live More th&a

thr" 78&1'1. 1 4on't bov vhether lt'• Ju•t a rumour or !aot, bu\

that '• wba\ the JapaneH pollee have ea14 to people and people tha\

ha4 buras oa \helr tao•• or banda or aJqVhere would mt 11Ye mora

\bu thl'ee 1•a1'• eva thoup ~ sot bettel".

Q. l thbk 7ft ea14 ,.e•terdq that a great JlaDI' ot them who died tna • •

\be 'bollb1q vou14 tura lnto/ueenleh. 7ellow color, and ~t ·

happeu! tau41atel7 atur or the nut clqt

A. · The peopla that v•re yer, 'ba.U7 burlled, the7 Yomlte4 all \he tlu-. .

a'beolutel.T no lateralaaloJL• bu\ nalte4 u4 Yoa1\e4 10 th.e7 coalb''

taka b. e1J:T water, or twaa lee.

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lklt ., .. lootort aal4 tba' 1' wae tu vaatu ett .. , Vl\Jl the ..... • ~... : . - • !, ;-~-: .

l'qt whloll patMI 'hl'neb \he 'b~, u4 U..' voal4 poleoa aU U... . . . ... . . ~ ·~· . :.., ~ .::: _.. __ . :

~ .,_, u;plaBattoa wu14 'be people laaftt . . : ,

A~ !hq 4t.4a't bow anrthllll a\cmt u. J'eople la lapaa. 'he7'n u\ ·

baqulaUl.,. at all. What thAt PaJ'lleaell\ ut4, what the hYe~a\ ..

.. awq fi'Oa the people. ~' 1• v!IJ', well, J11 'bn\hel' '•14 ••. alM»w.\ ·

llow the AaertO.e thne •'•• 4ova t~ the al.J'ptau• aqUae .tbat . . '; .. ·-

. we are co be to 'boalt thl• place ut tan the ohllbn u4 -~ ·ou,~ , . : '·· ·-· .. '

Vbl. I'" nner aeell aqthtrac llb \ha\.

'· Toll talka4 abo'llt \he attlbde ef the people at the7 ,.r• cotac 4ova

the zooa4. Oou14 7011 4eeorlb• that aptat

.L !hq vert .ta•t terrl'blT paalo-a\rlona. ••t 1a tu vq we an. 7n

mow. !he7 keep ..,.17\hbc ta thelr hlar\1 M \bq ba4 thelr lleab

don an4 Jut\ valklDC .,.,. , aD4 \hq cllda' t bow where \he7 vcire · ·

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' colnc or how tbq vere colac to 4o tt-the7 414a't care abo'llt uq-

thtDC erq more. fhq ~·t tal4t 1kel7\hlllc cou.• ad a'bc:Mt loabc

their Chlldrell, \~14 ..,. •Ye cou14a1t cet \he ch114 ··'· ,, •••

equ.aehe4 uder our houae.• .W. thq'4 crt.a avq aD4 lap • . '1M

. J apa!Utte vhea Ill 1orrow \hq ehov U Y1 'h a uUe an4 vhea ap po •be

\he girl 1• a brU.e: •he hat her head 4ova, ahe 4o•••'' utile at all,

aha keepe a a\rat&ht face ... -Ju•\ the oppotlte fJooa ua. Ad \he

\hlnc the7 thollch\ tueel', wbT v&~~a1 \ there oM tontcDer kllle4 la

tha'. »rel"''boq vat eafe. !'hen nre tvo Genaaa al••loaariee vbe

. nre bec\!7 lnJurecll ODe ha4 aD arteJ7 CV.t Jlere aD4 U bled .for elch' hour•, an4 thea tMre vu another w vho ha4 hit haD! or foot

fractured am J thbk he vae =' ooalq; alomc T•'Z7 vell. · .·

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"•1t.rre. • vea' d&llt t.a. .. waa a ftiPOa. thla J'lfUC - ad

.. lll nttbe ott the an. nppoab& \he al'll va• 1Amut4. !he Japw ... . .

..... ULer 'rle4 to aorape ott \h• rot\ .. tlelb aat Wtn7thlac~ at he · .

·• \ell...& 1a c=\tllac \lle ara oft, • be vent &D4 cat lt oft, ad lw

· .: . aa....a. .,.., IWV' .rapauH llb tba,, 4otac t:bat. I tlLlllk he .!xnllt

' • P' a nvlll't tor t,. 1fon4en.l aaa!

'-. :·>:~ · n&t •• the •'tltde ot 'he people u 70'Cl nnt aloaa, 414 \hq·

.· ... : "n•eat pv 'belq \beret D14 \bq reprt 1ft •• tonlcrwr•f

A. ·· .Oil, 711. !bq JrMv that w van toralpera a& \hq \b.oa&b' tbat

7Rpeopla 4nppe4 l' 110 eot o• fonlper woal4 1t1 kUla!. ~

- ._ , -.ta.a ._ ea I&J"th are 7n. tafat Wbr verea't 7D• bv.ne4f1 fhq

· -· .... 1.oob4 at 111 Yitll Jealoaq, ad I 4l4a'' tJP 4on-\oVIl--1 val aha14

... ·. ,_, thq .., ld.ll 70'&· . ADA eT8Il &IIODC ,. laplaMII there V&l .

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·· ,. people that v•rn't 'bu.ru4. »rea DOW tha lad till• I vent to -~ : . . . . ' .. -~ - ....

. .. ~~·:_ : .-... Ob. •. JW•• Otu' houte vaa a lapaneH houae 8114 the IUJleht.u VoUl4 alvq1

·;it\·i·:l~'..:_ .. _ti11 tu rooa aD4 lt vou14 p rlt;ht aero••-aD4 touch the :door•~ . '1'hl

~!'i',\(!:~:~~ .. all41q 4eora aft ae4e of a \hla hPe of voo4 ~ p~ ~ • . ·-. l»oth •t.4e.. .la4. Yhea,. sot 'back to ... \he hoU", whether 1\ -, ••

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·· : < · · ·'bu.r_De4 or no' attar, becau•e we let\ rich\ after the boab-:.wa 4 t.4A' \

·care what vaa ,. happea to our clothln& or our hml••· but' ~- ve co• ··';.

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.. .. · . back oa the DUt 4q ve aaw tht.e 4oor, ~at th8 oatline• of the bua,

the whole Jad a ecorthet oatllM, an4 1'4 explah tt Jud. a• ~

.un'• rq~ ha4 pttlll la, the v.rani1111 rqa pt h aD4 burDe4 t.,, I

think. ltv.' the bt:nl•• 41da'' catch oa ft.re .. , all.

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. · .. Q.. BoY 414 7f1JU fa\bazo lauinr tha\ \hla V:\a not aa ordtaur lJoa-. · · Vb\ ~: ·

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A. ,., Be waa b \be Yal' before u4 \he boab, \he heaYT 'boa\ 4S.cla1' •cJudL .. . . ._. ·.

ve d.lh1 ' beal" e:q aO\Uld. We Jg.a\ aav a n.aah aD4 ,. 4l4a1\ "' •.

aDT1 well, l\ vae'' one of \haae tire bo:~ba \b\ -,rea! ftre. Ve14

real ao IIRlcb abou\ 1\1 \hat 1• VJll' I though\ \han vu eoce\hlJac

quear abou \ l \.

Q.. ·~ Dld \he people la B1ro.:hilaa. ..,.r t.hi.nk that thq V011l4 ~· 'boll"'t · ·

A. . . Io. \he7 414Jl1 \. •• uart \ha\ there were I'UIIOra \ha\ Kyo\e ..4

llroat.a would 'be let\ ~ODC bH&U" Hlro.btaa val ..U a b~lN

place. AD4 \hq'4 aq lt \he .Aaerlcana ner aoa here, \hq'4 h&Ye

ll17a.1ba rl&h\ au\ u Blroahlaa., aai XJ~to, t10 \hq \ho'v.P\ 1 JUtYV

abut, ou or \Yo »--291 voul4n1 \ do fi1J7 h.'U'JI \o 1\. 'lba\ wu the

prop•can4a lA our cl-, aJ~~Wq, but people fn• !olqo, \he Rl'u4

ou\ people v0'1114 co• and \heJ'd ee,yt •tou better DO\ plq vtua

fire,• \her'4 hJ• "'¥ dad vaa alvqa ver'T oauU.ou• abou\ u.

"· 'lha\ waa \he tlrlt bo111bf

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Q.. !he e1t7 hall been bom'be! 'before, l th11lkt

A.. Jue\ once, one bce:D41&17 'boab vaa dropped.

~ Did 7ft eq \ha\ rou ver• n thlJl tba • • • • • • . • • • When the door vat

· opened.. rou vere vlthln tho db·eat rq• of the light \hat caM

\hrOQCb \hle door ~\ va• •lid opent

A. tee, l vae looklr&& toward• 'he cu,..

Q.. And 7our 'bro\h.er vae outside )·ou aaU.f

J.. lee, rlp' end t.n the sun' 8 rqs. Be Jud lq fia\ Oil the grouM .

an4 \ba\ va• hl• ••••..•••••

~. Ooaple,e17 ill the open vith nothinc to pro\ec\ bill vba\•oenrt

A. Bo\hb& at all. :lo, nothing at all.·

0, An4 he wae aot bu.rnedt

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· ·.-. Dil ,_ ... ,s. .. ..,-tht .. 1.a panl•w .,., u.a tbpnaaU.a •• . • l ~

, ... people vhD wmt \uMU '- -tt.oa.& tbat U.. ... t.r. ·' ·· . . . ~

.. A. 1M fbpnalla Jut • • • • • J Wak ,_, tt 1ft pallet as. a.t•t ·: ~-- ·. I . : ·-~ - .

0011e off. J tlb '' lwre tJae olwaeo ot en I' b'tlac to 4o AliT~

ltD tl&at. tu, ha\ n"'-4. fU tlk1a val a11 off .iuaA \lie ...Ua . .. . .

\a\ wnarA. eat I tbbk that U I tl"lel \e tab tua ott, thtr'1l

Ja•\ ooae oft. All& tull' tbpn wern' t a\r'al&tlteu& nt. It waa

aa \boqll thef wn bo14bc -•tac 'Y8rl bad-aU \he people. ·

1' .. tn.t to etral&b.tea 1ap uM. ttDprs-Ut.at'• what hut' tUi ftJ'T

.._ aal the fb&en ••1111 •U*• .. I \lat.* \u t.aur 1» ... wzoe

k1a4 of ...,...._ teo.

~ A'boat people \bat voN 1Janle4, ,... ~of Uae people 1NIMI

\hn11P tkell' olothbat Vltbftt \llell' 818\ht.ac U..aelYoo U'I'Uc

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Toe, there were ..... like that. I kuw of a Aoo\ol' -.rpoa, 1fho

~ beal'4 about latoJ'. • V&a 4obc aa opol'&tloa, vpa\ o~ra\loa,

&Dllaa ha4 ble bac:lk \ovart\a tb8 nater of tU }'hoe where tba boall

• 4roppe4, ant he ha4 that Me offleu'e ualfora, ~bat tlllok 'lULU~,

u4 tho whole of hla llaak t.roa tM heal 4owa Wd ba.n.e4 P4 he diet

1a three lqa.

·· Q.. fhat vaa l"lght ~ tho uUom!

· A. · to•, the whole of the ulfora, 1M\ aothbc lnu"De4.

~ AD~ wore \here caHe Sa vh1ck c1o\1WL& act.ullT vaa hru4 off \be

people tha\ were J»\ wlthh ba1141Dp \hat oau&h\ oa fin &D4 t~

like tha\--p-oplo vho vero 011.\ ta \he opeat »1.4 their oloth1q .

bura o-tt fro• theaJ

A. tee, tlw:n were ..... like tba' aD4 J thlJak vool buu!-1 bappenet.

to \hbk 1 t oYel" 1aa\ nl&ht--aa& l \hs.Dk woollJ' ·PI heav \h1Dp

bum\ fa•'•~" tbd .1••' co\toa. 'In ... , I Aleta'' mot1oe aba'

clothlac thea. I' ••• .,.., • I ••• _,_

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-·A. . · I UYer •• a pereon wboae clothe• vere ltebc bvaecl. We veat

, .· r1&h' nt ot the •U11 .. we Ucla't ... at all, aD4 I •ppoae 1\ vaa

eo fa•' ao'boc1T •'loe4 ''· lo, I 4oa't thlDk it lm'nel vt\h naaea

•' all. I thbk, it .1'1•' •••• Vell, 'he 1H)4T 414a'' burll, I th!U,

ba\ the mt141ap, Uut whole ol v wu · ••••••

·'- . , .. then eq place JV1l bow ot where thbp 1arM4 where there vaa

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>--' ~naMA 1t7 'he ~ l'Mlt ul •' 'b7 cettlac la\o eoznaot Vi \h tll'al

· I \hlD1t \be vhole ot Bro 8blaa • • • • • 1M ~'b tell aD4 la eou ••

pu.ttbc ost ~ lt.Pt, paUlac oa.' ~ flre.

~ · leolate4 haT•taokl vlwre \hen vaa DO tire pre••' •' the Uae the

1Kn6 hlt, ctl4 ~ lib \hat Writ late tlaM•t

: A. Well, I ehoull Ulbk eo-IIIQ"lte 110 beCBJlM I neYer DoUoe4 ezq of

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' that, \u\ I thllak 80 'beoau.e I wwl4 be w&l.ldllG •P lD the aountalne,

· . \hrAC)l aoutalaa a4 all of a •Uea vhea I anlveA, oa 011r lett

\U lna•ba• e\a.rie4 '- bun rlpt nt 110 we ba4 to 4o4p tho•• t1re1 •

.\ad the fln laatecl lD lllJ'Oehlaa troa half paat aicht to l tht.Dk the

next aornlq. Zar17 ill the aorntac about a o'clock lt eDdaA u4

people, the7 tr1e4 t.o nve tb~•u•l•e• who were al.reaq enctrclecl 'b7

.\be tlre. !he7 Juped lD\o the r1Yer•• !'here were e~Yen rlven la

.Hlrolhlaa aa4 the7 were Ju•' full of tb•, aD4 l bev of a !Qedaa

11147 an4 a Jbaalaa centl•lld· 1!e atqe4 la \be water tor aenn boun.

le'4 oo11e out ot the water for a little whUe te ce\ a bre•th, ad

tQil be voull p JJa aplD. Be waa ta \he water uarl7 ell \be tt.llt-

:::: =l~t =-\~\h ~:~:::f:4w:~~:~r:: ;:::•:.:d .· \\ ft.eroer. ··Dooton wen eo pant~ tbe7 torso\ the patlant• that nrl.._

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~ 1\ waa oa ~· laaak aldel

A.. lea, w\ the .u.a' • rqa were o•SJas n\ • • • coalzll: izlt. the

zrooa.

Cia 'lu.\ the 41~\ rqa troa \he 'MU_ 'blaa\ All 110\ ooae ~ ~

vlD4ovJ

DU. 1ft sq 701a nre looklq 41rM'17 \ovarb tha clt7 whea 1\

happeult

A. I••• Sir'.,

·"- D14 the 11&1l\ 'bother J'OV •1•~1

A. I aav the light Yef7 cloH te u. % ~u,ht l t vaa oA .. , ant J

tel\ \he hot vavea t.oo. I tbou.Pt 1\ vaa very bot.

C4. 'laa \be:re e:sq obanoe that 70\U' brother VM 701& eal4 wa• outstb,

could ban ben. proteote4 b7 a lN.l141q or eomet.ht.~a« troa the rqt

comb« dova \hat vou14 aooout for hle BOt 'belmc barMAl ,-_

A. lieU, he va• 1a the ...maltl.ne, 1a aluao11l\e aaaht.u.

4\. It the n.nshiu n• cuuc fna \ta. eaa\1 J ~ather that t~ ~

was b. the v•••· Vba.t JOV. sd4 a'boa.t the vt.D4ow-"a• there. a

po•dblllV of pnt•ott.ae the ba1141BC-Yaa the~ eoaet~ that

latpt the rqe of the boa\ troa hi \tla« clli"M\1

A. !he ch114rea that vera plqbc vl \h rq ~ro\her ven bvne4. ~

4th't lte 4ova oa the verdA. '1'he7 v•n llttle lt\tle cht.lua.

'!hq cot 'b~ anct the7 diet ~· a.fhr. ~ .., '"\her 414&''

cet wrnet..

So far a• ~011 Jaaov, vaa_ \Ure 111110• vbo vd D. a wootea bou.._

1»,- a voolea vall--b'a.J'ne4 \7 the ft.re of 'be lllU4be1

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A. , I 414a1\ aM .,..elf, \1:1\ I hear4 Ina '"p1e \hat the woo4n. .·

lNll~ Jv.•' ae eooa .. ve-vlllu wen oa \he •l4a of the . bolft•

Ut ~vue oa \U __, •l4e .jD.et )l.ru4 lutdlatel.T vltll \u nath.

(6. Wha' about nu et \he ~lck \Mll4S.,..tl Were thq lname4?

A~ !he larlck lna.l14bp vere ell tee\ro7e!, aa4 thq tell oa top of

the people aDI lDJuH4 thea. Jlalv' llaiV' :pe~le were kt11ecl b7 blc

·. W.ll.Abc• llb tlll1-fr011 7 h 8 t\orer• ht&h falll.lac don ad

·'HOOJd.ac ou t\oftT ~ Aza4 \hu \ht9'1l alTer ooae out, _b1&\.

aa14e troa the people _4WD atill ae\ kc nt, I 4oa't Jmov a th1q

~ loa Mntlon belac la \he 4t.reo\ rqe of \he llt;ht. D14 7011 feel .

a~t~lhllle at all When lba llch\ 1\1'\lalt TOUt

~ tea, l \ho'a&'lt t. \ vaa nq hot. tee, I tel t Yftl7 ucoatoJ>ta'bl•.

~ feq tlhortl.T after ,.. felt the f1uh. 411 7ft feel arq wid

blovbc a~> ..,. pree.are ol' ~ et tba\ tnet

A. · 1le11, lt nAt aU la oae baac. t unr he&l'l the qploaloa. l

-.ppo.. there vat aa ezplo•lOllt a blc •Ga.D4 but I JUtTU hesrd 1\.

I Ju•' ..., the JuN• tu\lhc ~ova. all! I 'bellwe \11&\ l\ ve.11 all

lal'k. !bat la all I ra•hr. »re17\hlq la aulmeea for about

a or I almlt••·

\• Do 7oa thlU the 4arbeaa alp\ haTe laMa a reaul\ of the flaah

bavlDc atfeote4 yfi'U .e~et

A. lo.

A. I thtak 1\ V&l Jv,al 4uel, 'becauM rq 878•--1 coulttn't cle!t.r ov.l

· ., eye• tor a~\ \vo or thrM tlqe. It ••• Just lull of little

-btte of hD4 aD4 ctue, I RppO.ie. .._r.r'hlac· Terr painful.

q,. lou aenU.oDA4 about \he 4oer ba:yJ.D& 1l•ea acorehe4. Yae e:D:T of 7ou

clo\hlrac 01' UT\h!.Dc acorebAtl ., allt

A. ao. ao\hlJaC, aolhtq.

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.·q.. ••re 7ft veaa1Jac lt.cht eo)orel er 4alk colom OloUWacf \ \

._. J vu.v..-ta& a \1'• IN~~~-. I\ vaa a nrt ltp\ b11le 4l"e•~1f.&tl\ I I ~

eolor-bo\ &rete. · \. ' · ·.]

· · ~ · . lfh8ll 7ft vea\ \aok att~rvar4•, fl'ft \1t.e ··•tll!l4po!la\ et Hft'lCOI tUn,

vaa the va\er Rl'PlT wrklqt

A. · •· all unloe• vere eut. Abaolute)7. lor a polloe a\aUel'l-lt

waa kllld of lJl the nwr'bea oD.l.T about M po11eean vera let\ 1a

the vlale 1\aff. leu eM, ao aothlac--&b•olutelJ'. ke17thiac wa\

back \e rula, abctlute rita.

Q;.. lt waa !ark fer twe or tu .. abmtee. Dlcl the tbte\ rl .... a• to

conr \he ltUlllCh\ and ma.D S.t apped' u lt 1\ Wei ••••• ·

1.. 1 4on1 t bow vhd l\ ••· I\ vaa Ju•' ab.olu\e 4a.rkuae for tve

.· or \hree llllJm\ea, ant the1l lAter 1\ etutecl to oleu ap lteUer aAI

better. Well, I don't know. it 111lll.4. ~at eor\ ot riea aD4 thea 1'

volll4 elea.r up a blt. 'the .. roplanes £l.71Bg 11p a'bove, 1ou bow •••

What d14 tt. 4ot Dld U remo. the v1alb1Ut7 ao 7ft o.ulda1\ ...

for tva er three sUed Ooul!. you see a loft4 dlatanoa a eon

tlue after tba ~o•b httl

4. J1atbe b halt an hour, I could see aova tova. In o\he:r vor4•~ thea

)"Oll aa.w Tart olearlT. •• clear aa l coul4. ne.

-- ~ ifbea 7ft aav tb.e castle 'buralnc far 011.\, .vae U au;r am tee after

· ~ boab hltt

.L. llqbe 1\ vae flve--vell--yn coul! aH the fiaMa.

Q. . . J14 7011 ••• ezq othtr White people after the boa'bla&1 w•re there

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aJIT othen a1'ftiMl 701l or v.re thq •' bundt

'lot ou whlte peraon wu \mrne4. 'lhq vere lDJtU"el bu\ JUt\ lalrae4.

!'b.ea 7011 aaw t'U.ita a ffiW of thea. In aa;qJ

!hree 48¥• att.•r we eav n-e~ •

~ vere aD7 ot these Yhlte P"ple aear tu c•zator ef the \owa \baa

)'ounelf a\ the tl• of the bel\bl

· 0!1, 78•· lle vere tha on.l7 onee out of tewa.

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::':- ··.'ld.iaaloal,\ea. tuy ~' l\ •• u...u bt.f to l.le vlt!l ....

:· . -.. ,.· ,.p... .. , lenaau aa4 Catultea •• , tlau, ,._ o\har peopt~; ,.:\eu. } .. ~~ .:·:\ .:Uwa. te, kt aU \Mil' canea\e ul ~ 1uMI. ••~ ~: ~ ••

~-T:'_ .. :i.·. kt{P,. of ~heM vhUe people 1oM \hell" Jaa!l' a\ a later ·~-~~··:·· · . .. : t:·_·_· .·.·/~ -" : _ - _; _:- . . : __ -· ::; ._·:_: . -. .- ·· . .

j..· .. ·.· _flo'bo!T va.a ta.tuna 1a ,., wq. that to vbJ" tu ,.., ..... , ,., .)la\ -~ .·. ' - :

· . eqa 1 1\ vaa a alJ'aOle-tlwre .U\ 'bo .... Jdat of \rlok --~ l\.• ,: ,· -

lo'll tmov, the~' J1t•\ woa'' bolleft lt.

~ . ·. .. Jrow ~ whlta peoplet

A~ ·· ·· · !here nro Alae lu.aetau, ••• AMrteaa vo•a• -wU, .u vu aa·' ·.

· jaed.caa, aatN •u vae lnaeh or ... tJltq-U. ._.. aha' • a . · : ·

Aaer1caaii&J'rlet tea lapau .. at I hl.lne tnl .... Genaa--o.l'lld

aleeloll&l'lle •

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-, .; ap:proxtaa'•lF \he .... lla,&Btl a• 7ft people at ... \be of tU

uplea1oat

A. Te•, abn\ llalt batt.

~. · Va• \heJ'e &'61 Tiatble chance h ''- a\t1h4e of the people tovd

\he war at\el' \he 'bo-' fellt

.t.. OA, thq tall tba\ 1\ vaa 1'117 bhuaaa u4 that •1 lappO" tha.\ vo'l.

lose the war,• d4 thq •&14t •z nppo•• all the lapaneH are cobc

to be kUlel, bu\ we•r• pbc \o llv• la till 4'ac-ow.\a aaa.. oh, ao\

~inc to _ciTe up bT thla.• !hq were all of ftl'lcnla ep1alou.

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!here were people vha rlt;ht. f:roa t.lle l:.at:f.DaJac all. 1We abov.14a''

baYa !ouch\ vlt.h the Aaerlcane. Yo shnlla't. baTe foacllt. wltlt. . .

ferelp people a:tqWtf7. 1 tf thq cona14er ~ whl\e, \U71 n

tp!. !rhe7 think a whl \e per•oa 1• TIFT lllP17 o4uoaW aa4 aoM­

thhc n-q aoh •ch hl&b•r tha thnnln•, bu\ ••• people. 7ft aee,

\heJ \rf ta llve up to ua ani tbq -.•t. 0• whoa 4t the7 pls.ce the reapoulbl1lt7 tor tlw etfeot of t.hl• 'boll\1

1 hae.r4 a rcaor that al\14. tllat .Amerlca 4etea.t.ea. h!'UllT aa4 th&\ ..

th•7 took the bo1i'b awq troa the 0.l'lll&lla. ton ... , \h8 O.raaae

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· W t\ n&a, h boa\ .., lork. .U •oa aa thq took l\ •117

troa \ha .._., ,..,. ue4 l\ •• u. Aat tllq aalt \Jae pllot

·vat. a hnaa toNe~ 1tT awleaaa, aDI ... , "-7 ... lkla \tel 19 ·

. la K!J'ollhlaa \e a hl-,bou polo aDI the JapauH ~ .. , hla te

ua\ll. tU7 aau. I aenr •• tu O.naa. ~' vaa the I'1UIO•

~· . Dl4 7011 hea:r ..,. eri\lol•• of the lcwenaen\ lea!ert, air rat&

•fflolala ncutbc the 'boa\J.acl

A.i' . . . !n -- .-1\let•• of .. ,..., ..... ~ ; ' .

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A • .. OJa, TeJ7 . .., o.rl\lOlDa-\lw racllo lOOI.'or._\hq 1&14 \ha\ \ba7

- 'at&'\ work T•l7 well. '"-• \lae aUp1aae wnU fl7 oTol" ui

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· thu tlwt alnat VCftl14 IIi• Oa \ha\ 4q Ula bull waa lroppe4. aa4

there van • .u ... wha\toiTU'. !hera vaa alwqt a 3-29 or two

f17111C abou\ aal • aiNu. flLq bl.-4 tu people that \ook oara

of \olllac lll 14wa \M ttDaT pl- woul.4 be crrer, 84 \JleT l»laM&

\he 0o1'8Z'IIUD.' tor ao' pa7tac DOh a\\entloa \o \ha,. · !'bare were

· a lot of orl,lelat. !h.q whole of lapaa--1 aea, ·a11 4urt:ac the

,_,. \hera vera OJ"l,tola-.~cicll.J' \he alltta.r.r folka.

Dt4 the Goftnaaa\ \alta eJ11 •'-P• lsae4la\.tT followbc the

ca\aa\ropbe tor reha'blU\a\loat D14 tbq aea4. ~·· b \here or

1fera \hera rJD7 nta14o apncloa tha\ csaa la tlwre l.lludlatiel.Jf

A. Cia, 711. Jroa OlhOI" \owJLe 'ben Vei'O poltoea... mu"NI1 4oo\ort

• ·..- a.doart. •OZ7'bot!T aa14 \ha\ vat • • • • • bu.\ the oll17 \hiDe

\h87\ook oaro of vaa \t. fool, utllhc •1•, 110 b&D4aps, •

Clo\h1ac, a\aolu\el7 zaoth!q. It,. bala'\ etoppel aD4 \hle

. ~~ .. 11\\le h011aeboll vo"Al4A1 \ le\ •• t.a \M co'tace• ve V01ll4

h&Ya \e eleep oa the floor J1ld U.ke \hi• woolta noor. •' na ·

a_, ••••• Q.. Van'' \~ W One• able to oou clowa \heref ..

-A. ·· · h. ~ 3el Oroaa. ._17\hlac vaa ... u..a.

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.L l'hq 4Ua'\ ena luzoa tlwa. ~ wen ~·' tb.cJuu4• aa4

. thnadb et •1Uere ..a ,.ople th&' 'M7 Jut 4111 •P a 'blc \tc . . .

.. bole 1a troll\ of the rectMll\ lfea4tu.r\en. then vat a blC tiel&

vheJ"e U&e ao14lera -.ra eD4 have panl.ea, ·yn. k:Dow. 'l'heJ'_t lla a

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· ,: ~lc hole \here aa4 tlutr threw the .bodlea 1a ture ad. the7 onere&

.. · thtlla. Ara4 'M7 cUt l\ a'boll\ fln tt.a.

~ · low 414 \he people 1a \be IAU'I'OII.Dillq areu \e vhlcb. thaae people

WIN ft'afnla\el \than \o¥&1"11 tbeat

. nacna&te .... ba4. oo•aJ¥1 troa the Gonnaent hl'!Jac \hat,. lla4 . . .

: .. .... eYaou&H" \M 25\ll ef le'bJ'WU7 u4 people ata.necl. to ~--~~. · »at tba ena\q people, t.hq t\arhcl eqlDC: •tn 41b1\ pq

~~adl a\\ea\1oa te •• 4v1q ••• vllaa 1\ v .. &OK \~1. aov \bat

. 7•• are aakt.Jac tor Ml~, well, we von1 \ let 7011 t.a. 1 ad' 7ft .. e,

· \he7 -.4e all aor\a ot e.xcu.aea, •asiac t.h&t \here vat a alok

pereoa, or th8 bou.n 11 too eaall. 1fe woa'' aeDd 1n. t.lw

vept.a'blea beoa.uae lt. vaa so eca.rce.• Yell, thq \rle4 to aon th8

people ·out. lo, nea U the7 weD\ te the relative'• to U.w,

t.hq'4 eoae 'back w1\h Ml'TO"'la breakdOYila, aq!.Jlca •t•4 rather 1>e

klllet b7 boaba thaa ll'f'e 1a a bou.aa where thq den' t. vu\ 7ft• 1 .

lo thea aan:t people oe.u back •.

~ Bow about \.he evaeuatloa after the atomic boab felll I

I.. Ob, then. Let'• •••· Oh, then, they II,J'IIpathbe4, at leaa\ t.hq

· · · q~.pa~1ae4 vi th u, n-ea thoup we were torelper•. 1'hq actel ·

· ••r:r Jlioa te ••·

\. . BoY 414 thq behave tOYa.l'ta each othut Kow 414 the7 behan tovarte

·. . o\her Japauae who wa=atecU

A. Vall, ;here wae • • • • • % 4oa' t thbk th•7 • • • • I au the7 ven •

aa\oalahM •••• I aeaa thq 4S.tla'\ haft tS.• td thlDk a'btna\ how to :;l

aot of ~hbc. ETeey'boq vaa out of \hel~ wit.. IT~~Poq.ha4 a

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