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This issue of China Economic Review takes an in-depth look at the issue of Big Data, a process of collecting information and using the results for commercial purposes which is chang-
ing retail markets at lightning speed. The major Chinese online
players, including Alibaba and Baidu are involved, and the sig-
nificance and depth of impact of this new approach to human
activity number crunching is only slowly becoming clear. All
that is certain at this point is that the impact will be greater than
we think. Also in this issue, a fascinating interview with David
Bandurski, a former colleague of ours, on the crucial topic of resi-
dency registration and how China is likely to deal with the results
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THE HOUSE VIEW
Asset-backed securities hold promise and peril for Chinas capital market
Ann Rutledge was in Hong
Kong when Mao died, got in
on the ground floor of eco-
nomic reforms and helped set up the
Hong Kong futures exchange before
going into asset-backed securities
(ABS)the same financial tools widely
blamed for the global financial crisis in
2008. So you might expect her to have
long since ceased being surprised by
Chinas financial markets.
Not so.
When she applied for a grant with
the SWIFT Institute to study Chinas
asset-backed securities market, Rutledge
said, I assumed the Chinese market
would look similar to the US market,
but with Chinese-flavored assets but I
figured wrong.
What she found was a burgeon-
ing sector beset by legal vagaries and
bisected by dueling regulators and asset
classes, one that could potentially do for
China what it did for the United States:
Supply companies with far greater
liquidity while providing investors with
an asset class that can be tailored to suit
their risk profile, all (ideally) without
culminating in a crisis like the one in
America that rocked markets the world
over.
While still relatively small, in recent
years the securitization market in China
has grown as rapidly as government
quotas will allow. If given more room
for healthy growth, ABS could help pull
a substantial sum out of Chinas noto-
rious shadow banking sector where
wealth management products often
act like ABS, but lack any semblance of
transparency. Kingsley Ong, a partner
at the law firm Eversheds International
who helped draft Chinas asset-backed
security laws, said that based on rising
demand for better investment opportu-
nities, the potential for securitization in
China was practically unlimited.
But as Rutledge and other observers
have also pointed out, a lack of data on
the nuts and bolts of the great majority
of deals in this emerging market, togeth-
er with widespread inexperience among
investors who rely on caution instead of
expertise, raise questions about its influ-
ence on the economy at large.
I dont want to sound like an
alarmistIm not. Im a proponent of
[ABS], Rutledge said. But when
people want to see a market grow theyll
say anything, and theyll turn a blind
eye to things that are obviously prob-
lematic.
Stop-start progressChinas securitization market began in
April of 2005, when the central bank
and banking regulator established a
pilot market and regulations. Those
were suspended in 2009, by which
time the role of American mortgage-
backed securities in kick-starting what
had become a global financial crisis had
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THE HOUSE VIEW
become common knowledgea move
even more critical voices on Chinas
economy say made sense.
While I am sometimes a critic, I will
say I can understand China saying hey,
we better figure out this product and
this market before we allow it to go full
bore in ours, said Christopher Bald-
ing, professor of economics at Peking
University.
Once the dust had settled from
Americas financial implosion, Beijing
looked once more to securitization as a
promising financing tool, and in May
of 2012 revived the marketthough
it forbade the structures (re-securiti-
zations and synthetics) that caused the
crisis in the US.
Eddie Hu, a partner at the Shang-
hai office of consultancy King & Wood
Mallesons who has advised banks, auto
finance companies and financial firms
on asset-backed securitizations, chalked
a recent increase in issuance up to an
easing of regulations. Before 2015, firms
had to get case-by-case approval from
the authorities; now they can sell freely
once theyve registered regulators.
The administrative process has
been simplified, incentivizing those who
originate and issue to do more securiti-
zation, Hu said.
Since the ban was lifted, issuance of
asset-backed securities (ABS) in China
has grown by leaps and bounds: In 2014
China overtook South Korea to become
the largest securitization market in
Asia, and this year issuance had topped
RMB235 billion (US$36.88 billion) by
late October, up 18.5% for the year to
date, according to Bloomberg data.
Its grown very rapidly, Balding
said, however in comparison to things
like bank lending or even the general
bond market its simply tiny.
Structural complexityBalding attributed that relatively minus-
cule market size to two main factors:
A preference among Chinese investors
for less complex financial products and,
perhaps most vitally, a lack of under-
standing of what exactly they are.
In this many Chinese investors are
not alone, as the apparent complexity of
ABS is among the many attributes that
help make the sector seem impenetrable
to outsiders.
An asset-backed security essentially
takes contractual future cash flows or
expected stable operating cash flows
and converts them into immediately
fungible funds by borrowing against
those flows and the assets that generate
them. For example, as has been done
with certain expressways in China, the
company that owns a toll road can use
that road as collateral in order to get
financing from investors now based
on the income it has yet to make from
tolls paid by drivers who will use said
road.
To actually come up with the
money, the company can set up an
issuing financing vehicle that offers
interest-bearing securities to investors
based on those expected cash flows
from future toll payments. Once inves-
tor financing is secured, the vehicle
will actually buy the toll road from the
companyso the company gets money
now, and the financial instrument
begins directing money from toll pay-
ments directly to the investors holding
the securities until the promised pay-
outs are paid off in full.
If the cash flows from the toll road
dry up, the investors can take the road
and sell it off as compensation. And
because the company doesnt actually
own the road anymore, it cant stop the
issuer from transferring ownership to
those investors.
A financial institution typically helps
set up the issuer known as a special
purpose vehicle (SPV) that issues
securities to investors, often in different
batches that are classified based on their
level of risk, which is tied to priority of
repayment. The risk level of each batch is
certified by one or more ratings agencies.
The credit rating for such securities
can be higher than that of the company
from which they originated because the
risk being evaluated is that of the cash
flows themselves. So your company
might not be triple-A, but you can still
issue bonds that are triple-A, Ever-
shares Ong said. That is a phenom-
enal advantage. Thus, securitization
can enable a company to raise funds
more easily than might be otherwise
possible through a loan based on its bal-
ance sheet. It also creates a new class
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of investment with risk portioned
out to suit the tastes of investors, which
can range from more cautious pension
funds to less risk-averse private hedge
funds.
But Beijing has added another wrin-
kle to the proceedings by separating
ABS into two categories, administered
by two different regulators.
Market landscapeBeijing has added another wrinkle to
the proceedings by separating ABS into
two categories administered by two dif-
ferent regulators.
The first, most-favored variety falls
under the Credit Assets Securitization
Scheme (CASS) and trades on Chinas
interbank market. Here, assets origi-
nate with banks, trust companies, lend-
ers and auto finance firms, securities for
which are issued by trust companies on
their behalf to be snapped up by institu-
tional investors.
CASS is also the bigger and more
liquid market: As of June 25, 12% of
all 2016 Chinese securitizations to date
were CASS, accounting for 82.2% of the
total principal issuance of RMB605 bil-
lion, according to Rutledges findings,
published in a working paper published
in September by the SWIFT institute.
Of the 127 CASS deals analyzed in
the working paper, nearly three quar-
ters were collateralized loan obligations
(CLOs)securities backed by a pool of
debt, typically sourced from small- and
medium-sized enterprises. The next-
largest cohort, auto loans, stood at just
over 10%.
Yet while similar CLO offerings are
priced lower than general-purpose cor-
porate bonds in US and UK markets, in
China they arent.
What that seems to indicate is that
either the companies arent selling the
[securitized] bonds properly or the
investors dont believe what the compa-
nies are saying, they dont believe that
the securitized bond is giving them any-
thing more tangible in return, Balding
said.
Investing in the darkThe reason behind such puzzling valu-
ation of the interbank markets most
popular ABS offering may lie in a short-
age of two key assets: Information and
experience.
Rutledge, also an adjunct assistant
professor at the Hong Kong Univer-
sity of Science & Technology and the
founder of securitized asset assessor
R&R Consulting, said that her firm only
dealt with deals for which perform-
ance data was available, narrowing the
options considerably.
The only deals that I can get what
we call servicer data - what we call
underlying performance data - on are
coming out of deals that foreign manu-
facturers are doing, specifically the auto
manufacturers, she said.
That attraction stems largely from
the fact that reporting for auto loan
ABS issued by foreign firms is stand-
ardized, and includes information on
the assets generating the cash flows
in addition to sectoral exposure and .
Disclosures from automakers like Nis-
san, BMW and Volkswagen allow ABS
investors to determine how many loans
are delinquent, how many have default-
ed, the likelihood of being repaid in full
on time.
Indeed, Hu said the performance
record of auto loans underlying asset
pools was quite good compared with
other corporate loans because theyre
very diversified, making for a perform-
ance record that will be attractive to
international investors.
For the roughly 90% of the CASS
market that isnt backed by auto loans,
this vital performance data isnt made
public, although it is collected by the
China Central Depository & Clearing,
the official clearing company for the
interbank market.
Trust issuesOutside of Chinas interbank market,
ABS growth is being held back by the
uncertain legal status of the legal frame-
work currently available for use by non-
financial institutions in securitizing
assets.
The question comes down to the
kind of special-purpose vehicle that is
created to issue securities to investors
on behalf of a company and which takes
on ownership of its assets. In short,
while the tool used by financial institu-
tions (a special-purpose trust) is well-
established in PRC law, the only one
available to non-financial firms isnt.
Under the current setup, known as
the Asset Backed Specific Plan (ABSP)
model, these companies have to use
contracts to transfer ownership of
assets. The resulting ABS cannot be
traded on the interbank market, but can
be offered to retail investors and even
listed on the Shanghai and Shenzhen
stock exchanges. But the grounds on
which those underlying contracts are
permitted only amount to administra-
tive rules, which can be overruled by a
host of higher regulations.
As laid out in a recent study of Chi-
nas securitization law published in the
Capital Markets Law Journal and co-
authored by Ong, such rules may have
different levels of enforcement in differ-
ent parts of China, and may be subject
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to policy changes over time, or even
competing political interests.
That means the rights of investors
who hold ABS arent guaranteed pay-
ment, which forestalls development of
securitizations by non-financial insti-
tutions any time soon. As the studys
authors write, [the] securitization
industry may need to remain patient.
This helps explain why as of late
June, when data for the SWIFT working
paper was gathered, principal issuance
in the ABSP market had grown only 3.4
times that seen prior to the 2008 market
hiatus, while average deal size had fallen
to RMB3.87 billion (US$607.7 million),
only 56% of its pre-freeze level.
Meanwhile, ABS trading on Chi-
nas interbank market has expanded
to gigantic proportions by compari-
son: As of June 25, principal issuance of
CASS had grown to RMB497.6 billion
(US$78.09 billion), eight times what
it was in 2008, while average deal size
grew just over 1% to RMB3.29 billion.
Untapped potentialEddie Hu at King & Wood Mallesons
said that the clearer picture for investors
of underlying assets and risk pointed
to brighter prospects going forward of
ABS issued by financial institutions.
But even here he was conservative, cit-
ing recent cuts by the central bank to
Chinas benchmark lending rate as eas-
ing any pressure mainland banks were
under to find more funding.
I dont think there will be a leaping
increase in issuance numbers or size,
but I think the number of issuances and
issuance size will increase gradually in
the coming years, Hu said, pointing in
particular to local commercial banks at
the city level and below as likely to try
their hand at ABS.
That is looking more likely in light
of recent regulatory easing: In June,
Reuters reported that the China Bank-
ing Regulatory Commission had grant-
ed provincial branches permission to
green-light new issuance for cities com-
mercial banks for their ABS plans
though big banks apparently still need-
ed issuance approval from the commis-
sions headquarters in Beijing.
Yet even those approved by the
banking regulator remain opaque by
the basest standards of international
ABS investing, Rutledge said, adding
that knowledge of the routines used by
securitization analysts to rate the batch-
es issued in securitizations was sketchy
as well.
People are doing deals and the
deals seem to work, but one of the rea-
sons the deals are working is because
the high performing collateral is whats
being securitized, said Rutledge.
That leaves open the question of
whether Chinas ABS investors will be
able to tell what theyre getting them-
selves into when regulations on what
can be securitized within the interbank
market are eventually loosened once
new finding new sources of funding
becomes a priorityparticularly if per-
formance data remains as scarce as it is
now.
You cant put a fence up and expect
it to contain water. Water flows. Money
flows, Rutledge said.
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NEWSHIGHLIGHTSIMF to add yuan to SDR reserve currency basketThe International Monetary Fund
admitted the Chinese yuan to the Spe-
cial Drawing Rights basket of reserve
currencies alongside the dollar, euro,
yen and pound, Reuters reported. The
yuan will have a 10.92% share, in line
with expectations, after a review of the
weightings formula for the SDR which
also cut the euros share by more than
six percentage points. The yuans inclu-
sion in the basket from October 2016
is a largely symbolic move with few
immediate implications for financial
markets. But it is the first time an addi-
tional currency has been added to the
SDR basket, which determines which
currencies countries can receive as part
of IMF loans.
Mainland stock exchanges tight-en restrictions on margin tradingThe Shanghai and Shenzhen stock
exchanges raised margin requirements
from 50% to 100% in a move meant to
prevent systemic risks from building up
in Chinas financial system, Bloomb-
erg reported, citing a statement from
the Shanghai bourse. The rule change
limits margin investors to borrowing
from brokerages only as much as is in
their current account, rather than dou-
ble that, as was previously the case--and
which helped intensify this summers
equities boom-turned-bust. The Shang-
hai exchange said in a microblog post
that the move would reduce leverage
and ensure healthy development of
the market.
Family planning office demands one-child enforcement until new law passedThe National Health and Family Plan-
ning Commission lashed out at a pro-
vincial office in Hunan for its plans
not to harshly penalize those who
gave birth to a second child before a
new two-child policy is enacted, South
China Morning Post reported. The
national commission stressed that the
new policy cannot be implemented
until the National Peoples Congress
Standing Committee amends the
Population and Family Planning Law.
Each province will then draft its own
implementation plan for local peoples
congresses to approve and change their
family planning laws, usually done in
the first quarter.
Beijing delays financial liberaliza-tion in the face of economic woesBeijing is delaying opening of its finan-
cial borders as the leadership shifts to
emphasize stability in response to eco-
nomic slowdown, The Wall Street Jour-
nal reported, citing a wide range of offi-
cials, executives and advisers as well as
the minutes of a September closed-door
meeting of top leaders from the Nation-
al Development and Reform Commis-
sion and the Ministry of Finance. But
even a new target of 6.5% annual eco-
nomic growth for the next five years,
announced by President Xi Jinping,
may prove hard to hit, with analysts
saying that it would require stepped-
up stimulus measures that would run
counter to long-discussed reforms that
could squeeze near-term growth.
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J.P. Morgan hired family, friends of Chinese execs for nine out of 12 IPOsJ.P. Morgan Chase & Co. hired the fam-
ily and friends of executives at nine out
of 12 major Chinese companies it took
public from 2004 to 2013, The Wall
Street Journal reported, citing a docu-
ment compiled by the bank to submit
to US investigators in April as part of
a federal bribery investigation. The
document lists 222 candidates hired
by the bank under a program known
internally as Sons and Daughters,
and names the people who referred
themthe most detailed accounting
yet of the overlap between the program
and the banks business in China. list-
ings included Agricultural Bank of
China (US$22 billion), China railway
group (US$5.9 billion) and CGN Power
(US$3.6 billion)
Summer equities bailout leaves national team holding 6% of stock marketChinas national team of state finan-
cial institutions, corralled into purchas-
ing shares to stem this summers equi-
ties rout, ended up collectively owning
at least 6% of the mainland stock mar-
ket, The Financial Times reported, citing
data from Wind Financial. The figures,
compiled from quarterly financial state-
ments disclosing listed firms ten largest
shareholders, likely underestimate the
national teams actual holdings. The
government cash infusion came after
the Shanghai Composite index fell more
than 40% from its seven-year high on
June 12 till late August. Goldman Sachs
estimated in September that the gov-
ernment had spent RMB1.5 trillion
(US$234 billion) to support the market
in July and August.
MSCI adds 14 overseas-listed Chinese firms to emerging mar-ket indexMSCI has added 14 overseas-listed
Chinese firms - including Alibaba
Group and Baidu - to its influential
MSCI Emerging Market index, Reu-
ters reported, citing a statement from
the company. Analysts estimate the
rebalancing could trigger up to US$70
billion in net flows into the group
of stocks over the next half year and
bump up Chinas weight in the index
by three percentage points to 26% in
the process. Overseas-listed Chinese
firms also comprised the lions share
of 18 securities added to MSCIs China
Index. MSCI chose to exclude main-
land-listed A-shares from its global
indices in June, shortly before a dra-
matic selloff ended a months-long rally
in China stocks.
Citic Securities admits to vast-ly overstating April-Sept equity swapsMainland brokerage Citic Securities
admitted to incorrect reporting that
resulted in overstating total equi-
ty swap transactions between April
and September during the height of
Chinas stock market volatility, The
Wall Street Journal reported, citing an
emailed statement from the company.
The statement came after the Securi-
ties Association of China claimed it
had in October discovered a massive
error in regulatory filings on swaps by
Citic that overstated the figure for the
April-September period as RMB1.063
trillion (US$166.46 billion), or 26
times its actual size of around RMB40
billion. Citic cited computer system
upgrades as the reason for the incor-
rect reporting.
Bacteria-hopping gene found in China could enable worldwide antibiotic resistanceScientists in China have discovered
that a gene enabling resistance to the
sole remaining fully functioning class
of antibiotics, colistin, is widespread
in bacteria carried by both pigs and
people in southern China--and can be
transferred from one strain of bacteria
to another, The Guardian reported,
citing the journal Lancet Infectious
Diseases. China is one of the worlds
largest producers and users of colis-
tin for agricultural and veterinary use,
stoking greater resistance. Although
resistance to this important and widely
used polymyxin group of antibiotics
has previously been shown, it was gen-
erally caused by mutation in individual
organisms, said Nigel Brown, presi-
dent of the Microbiology Society.
Security ministry admits most of worlds synthetic drugs made in ChinaChinas Ministry of Public Securi-
ty acknowledged that most synthet-
ic drugs sold worldwide are made in
China, Caixin reported, citing a state-
ment from ministry officials. The US
Drug Enforcement Administration
said in March it arrested a Chinese
citizen named Tian Haijun when he
arrived in America. He was accused of
shipping tons of synthetic drugs into
the United States from China. Zhao
Zhongchen, the director of the Drug
Control Bureau, said the China Food
and Drug Administration imposed
new controls covering 116 new psy-
choactive substances in October. How-
ever, he admitted the use of the Inter-
net to handle transactions made law
enforcement difficult.
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Chinas big data dreams may be in for a rude awakening
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COVER STORY
Actuarial Science. But try telling that to
Baidu, Alibaba or Tencent.
Analog to digitalBy and large, the business world under-
stands big data as defined by a widely
referenced report published by McK-
insey in 2011: datasets whose size is
beyond the ability of typical database
software tools to capture, store, man-
age, and analyze.
As with much discussion of big
data, popular doesnt mean precise, or
even useful. Yu preferred to focus on
big datas lack of clear purpose: Where
traditionally data might be collected
through a survey designed with some
objective in mind, big data is hoovered
up en masse to be sorted through later.
So much more data also means greater
potential to confuse correlation with
causationmistaking coincidental pat-
terns for meaningful trends.
Photos, Yu said, were an apt meta-
phor for the big data phenomenon, as
the switch from film to digital brought
the price of a picture down so low that
now dozens are snapped of even trivial
events, often preserving the redundant
or unimportant. And surely there is no
greater store of photos or redundant
and unimportant information than
the Internet, which is itself continu-
ally being mapped and analyzed by the
original big data outfits: Search engines.
Yet while Baidus success in parsing
Chinas walled-off corner of the net is
well-known, Yu bemoaned a ongoing
rarity of strong all-around data scien-
tists with the necessary knowledge of
math, statistics and computer science
required to navigate the field, much less
the business acumen to know when to
say no in the face of big figures.
The sales pitch was slick, to be
sure: Unmatched situational
awareness, even to the point
of outbreak prevention. Search queries
from across the country would flag the
early spread of influenza better even
than official government forecasts,
helping medical workers more effective-
ly focus their efforts to halt an embry-
onic epidemic.
The company: Google. The project:
Google Flu Trends. The prognosis: ter-
minaldiscontinued in 2014 after hav-
ing vastly over-projected outbreaks for
eleven months running. But not before
Baidu had a chance to come up with its
own take on the idea.
The signal was clear: Big data had
come to China in a big way, and with it
the attendant belief that the current era
of information inundation will solve all
of societys woes by revealing the hid-
den trends beneath our noses one data
point at a time. Party officials endorse
it; tech blogs constantly cover it; busi-
nesses cant get enough of it.
But there is also a serious gap in
understanding: Businesses are now
well-versed in the the futuristic poten-
tial of big data, while experienced
statisticians are all-too-familiar with
its present-day limitations. But how
else to attract investor funding? The
outcome is a business mindset that
demands the unending harvest of
everything that might one day prove
useful on the assumption that it will
bewithout stopping to consider the
consequences.
Big data doesnt mean the data is
accurate, said Philip Yu, co-author of
multiple books on data analysis and an
associate professor at Hong Kong Uni-
versitys Department of Statistics and
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Significant digitsPerhaps none of Chinas internet busi-
ness behemoths is more apt to trumpet
the importance - or revenue-generating
potential - of its data than Alibaba and
its myriad affiliates and subsidiaries. To
herald the launch of a startup incubator
in October, founder and chief executive
Jack Ma declared that data will become
the biggest production material in the
future, it will become a public resource
like water, electricity and oil.
Never mind that the spot price for
crude oil tumbled that same day to
just US$48.25, down more than 44%
from a year before due to a price col-
lapse brought on by severe overcapac-
ity engendered by wild optimism about
future projected demand. The fact
remains that money is flowing to big
data on the basis of such prophecies.
The China Academy of Information
and Communication Technology, a
government think-tank, estimated in
September that annual spending on
big data-related services, software and
hardware would reach RMB11.59 bil-
lion (US$1.814 billion) this year. A
large chunk of that will come from
Alibaba, which in May of this year
became the fourth-largest hosting
company in the world and the larg-
est in China, according to UK-based
Internet research and services com-
pany Netcraft.
That money has translated to greater
processing power in the big data arms
race: In November Aliyun, Alibabas
cloud computing arm, won the prestig-
ious GraySort benchmark competition
by using 17 times more servers than the
likes of Google and Microsoft to sort
100 terabytes of data in six-and-a-half
minutes, 3.6 times faster than said com-
petition.
For all that processing power, how-
ever, the company has struggled to spin
gold from the straw of its e-commerce
operations user data, even for a much-
hyped credit score service meant to give
users of its payment platform loans on
the cheap.
Buy diapers, get creditMultiple sociological studies indicate
that a person is more likely to default
if their friends and family have default-
edhence the hype that accompanied
Facebooks purchase of a patent for the
use of social networks in credit ratings,
and the drive in China use digital per-
sonal networks as the basis for an alter-
native to the kind of credit score most
on the mainland currently lack.
Alibaba was first out of the gate this
year in March when it began offering a
credit rating service through subsidiary
Sesame Credit Management. Echoing
the above-mentioned studies, Sesames
director of business development, Deng
Yiming, told Caixin that users would
score higher based on the ratings of
the people with whom they had money
transfers.
Technology director Li Yingyun
added that shopping habits and lifestyle
also played a role: Someone who plays
video games for 10 hours a day, for
example, would be considered an idle
person, and someone who frequently
buys diapers would be considered as
probably a parent, who on balance is
more likely to have a sense of respon-
sibility.
Ostensibly this all makes it a little
easier for the little guy in China to get a
loan. But the problems with this kind of
credit calculus are easy to envision.
Scholars in the US have pointed
out that even if online social networks
didnt often differ from actual relation-
ship networks cited in studies, social
credit evaluation could end up perpetu-
ating the socioeconomic status quo by
placing poorer communities at a sub-
stantial disadvantage. Unless, of course,
they game the system.
People are savvy. As soon as they
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realize a certain metric is being used,
they can adjust, said Larry Salibra,
software engineer and founder of the
south China-based software glitch-
detection services firm Pay4Bugs.
Indeed, regularly purchasing diapers
in bulk as an expectant mother might
could well push the score of a young
single male above the threshold for nifty
benefits offered by Sesame Credit to
high-scoring users, like booking a hotel
room without a cash deposit.
But with Alibaba so quick to mon-
etize its data, the firm is introducing
users to the idea of their behavioral sta-
tistics being used for profitable ends far
more quickly than has been the case
in other marketswith the exception,
perhaps, of targeted advertising.
Diminishing returnsThe efficacy of online advertising has
drawn greater global attention in recent
years as methods of abuse and result-
ing countermeasures have grown more
elaborate. Entire armies of unwilling
computers are regularly infected by
viruses whose sole purpose is to con-
script more CPUs to click on targeted
ads, all to meet click-through quotas.
Salibra noted that while this problem
is far from unique to China, so-called
botnets are particularly easy to find on
the mainlandanythings available on
Taobao, he said, half in jest.
Hence the appeal of going through
Tencents social network and online
services app WeChata captive audi-
ence with plenty of ready intel that
companies can use to tailor their con-
tent for a surgical strike on consumers
wallets.
If only. As explained in a white paper
from WeChat consulting services firm
WalktheChat, the top options available
to advertisers on Tencents showcase
service are ineffective, expensive or both.
Less expensive adverts delivered
through large public-facing accounts
amount to a poorly targeted plat-
form with average prices, low visibility
and low conversion rate, in Walkthe-
Chats words (meaning few resulting
purchases).
The other option is shelling out far
more for expensive Moments ads that
show up in large numbers of user feeds,
regardless of what or whom they follow
on the platform. Attempts to use this
option have thus far met with visceral
backlashthough perhaps not in the
way one might expect.
When Coke and BMW became
among the first firms to take out
Moments ads in January, user reac-
tions ranged from annoyed to out-
raged. In contrast to privacy minded
Facebookers, WeChat users were most
vocally upset over not being targeted
for a BMW ad. After all, being served a
Coke ad implied users were low-income
nobodies by comparison.
The only effective option may be
paying influential WeChat users - Key
Opinion Leaders - to run ads in their
feeds or even directly plug products, the
cost of which WalktheChat estimated
could range from RMB5,000-50,000.
But even here fake KOL accounts are
common, able to masquerade as the
real deal by stealing content from other
accounts and buying botnets to supply
the clicks needed to drive up each posts
view count.
The consulting firm pointed to plen-
ty of reason for advertisers to cheat:
If your marketing managers bonus is
indexed on the number of new follow-
ers he or she gets to your account
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with a super-tight budget, there is
clear incentive for misbehaving.
Inputs and outputsIn short, said Hong Kong Unversitys
Yu, and despite the size-centric monik-
er, big data success is not chiefly a mat-
ter of quantity.
The quality of the data, how accu-
rate, reliable it is. This is the important
thing, Yu said, adding that HKU had
gone so far as to start a program specifi-
cally to address the industrys shortage
of well-rounded talent in greater China.
Yu-Xi Chau, a freelance statistician
and recent PhD graduate in complexity
science, pointed to the need for advanc-
es in artificial intelligence, the abil-
ity for machines to have insights that
humans cannot fully understand. That
has been the chief focus of Baidus big
data initiative, which in 2014 trumpeted
its own success in predicting the winner
of every match of the 2014 FIFA World
Cup.
But football is a far cry from the
complexities of epidemiology. Baidus
Google-inspired influenza forecasting
project also speaks to another major
drawback of big data: Corporate secrecy
that keeps independent third parties
from vetting firms underlying algo-
rithms.
That is by no means the sole domain
of China. But for all of its flaws, Google
Flu Trends provided historical data that
reached back to its launch, allowing sci-
entists to track just how far afield its
predictions eventually fell. Baidus fore-
casting service is still online, but only
provides users with forecasting records
from the last 30 days.
Whether that relationship is causal
or simply correlation is impossible to
sayat least without more data.
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In China, big data has its own quirks to work out
While big data in China sharesmany features with the indus-trysotheriterationsabroad,perhaps
no other country has embraced the
conceptsoreadilyatleastonpaper.
InSeptembertheStateCouncilis-
suedguidelinestoboostthedevelop-
ment of big data in China, requiring
not only greater sharing of govern-
ment-collecteddataonasharedplat-
form, but support for major home-
grown data firms that could become
world-beaters.
Thatmightbealittleover-optimis-
tic,atleastfornow.
Yu-XiChau,afreelancestatistician
andrecentPhDgraduateincomplex-
ityscience-coveringmath,statistics
and computer science said that in
both Hong Kong and China, top-tier
statistical talentwas inshortsupply,
andaddedthatevenpromisinggrads
faced huge pressure upon entering
theindustry.
When [investors] talk about big
datatheydontreallyunderstandthe
limitations,Chausaid.Corporatecul-
turefocusedonfastresultshaspro-
ducedaglutprojectsinbothinChina
andelsewherethatmayusethedata
companies have at hand, but is not
doingthingsthatareusefulinastat-
isticianseye.
Philip Yu, co-author of multiple
booksondata analysis andanasso-
ciateprofessoratHongKongUniver-
sitys Department of Statistics and
ActuarialScience,agreed,notingthat
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hisuniversityhadrecentlyintroduceda
newmajor-decisionanalytics-tohelp
remedytheregionsdearthofdatasci-
entists.
There is also the relative youth
of data-gathering projects in China:
Wherebigdatahasbeenaroundinthe
USforaroundadecade,mainlandtech
firmshavehadjustunderhalfthattime
totrackstats.
Data isavery typicalproblem[for
businesses], Yu said. They want to
startprojectsbuttheyneedtocollect
theinfoforsometimefirst.Ifnot,they
cantdoanything.
That lack of historymay be one of
themajormotivationsbehindthelatest
roundofinvestmentandacquisitionsin
ChinasITsector:Bysnappingupfirms
withvaluabledata,industrygiantscan
broadentheircoveragetonewsectors
liketrafficanalysisorfooddelivery.
That in turn, isdrivingbigdataas-
pirations among start ups hoping to
attract funding from - or even better,
get bought out by - Baidu, Alibaba or
Tencent.Chauwasopenlyskepticalof
recent funding valuations, comparing
thecurrentwaveofinvestmentindata-
centrictechfirmstothedot-comboom
ofthe90sintheUnitedStates.Thanks
to a mismatch between expectations
andreality,hesaid,thebusinesssideis
imbuingbigdatawithalevelofabilityit
doesntyetpossess.
Eventually, when industry knows
more, the gap might be overcome.
Though it might take years, Chau
said.ButBeijing,henotes,wantsdata-
enabled breakthroughs in economic
growthnow,andtheeasyoptionisto
turntobigdata.
Chausaidthatregardlessofwheth-
er it worked or not, big datawas an
easier option to turn to in China be-
cause privacy laws are so laxthey
care less about legal issues. Indeed,
atpresentthereisalackofanylegisla-
tiondefiningwhatpersonalinformation
evenmeans.
Therelevantlegislationisallatthe
[local]ministeriallevel,saidZhaoYun,
directoroftheCentreforChineseLaw
at Hong Kong University. While gains
had been made in recent years with
various lower-level guidelines, Zhao
said, there was still no national-level
legislationprotecting,orevendefining,
personaldataonthemainland.
Making progress on that frontmay
prove more difficult than Zhao would
preferthankstoapathyfromChinasne-
tizens about data privacy issueseven
whenitpertainstotheirdatinglives.
InlateNovemberLarrySalibra,soft-
wareengineerandfounderofthesouth
China-based software glitch-detection
servicesfirmPay4Bugs,discoveredthe
popularChinesedatingappTantanwas
failingtoencryptprivatedataittrans-
mitted, exposing users to potential
identitytheft,orworse.
The interesting thingabout that is
therewasjustnointerestin[mainland]
China,Salibrasaid.Whileacoupleof
Chinese-languagepublicationsinHong
Kongcovered thediscovery,mainland
publications completely ignored it, he
said.
Butheaddedthatwithinsocialnet-
works,Chineseusers seemed to take
farmoreadvantageof privacyoptions
toshieldcertainmembersoftheirnet-
worksfromseeingselectactivities.
Normal people who are married
and out having lunch with their mis-
tress, theyll post the picture on We-
Chatbutonalistthatblockstheirwife
from viewing it, he said. Thatmeans
amajordatabreachcouldhavedisas-
trousconsequencesforthosewhoare
ignoranttohoweasilyleakedtheirper-
sonalinformationmightbe
Butbyfarthemostremarked-upon
feature of Chinas big data landscape
is the penchant among users to ma-
nipulatedatawheneveritmightbenefit
themmuchasisalreadythecasefor
traditionalstatistics.
One of the biggest problems is
whether you can trust the data going
intothesystem,Salibrasaid,pointing
to credit scoring as an example (see
main story, p22). Yuwasmore direct,
citinganoldstatisticiansmantra:Its
garbagein,garbageout.
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Alex Wong, President of SPACE Asset Management Group, talks about industry development driven by Internet+
The Era of Big Data
In recent years, Internet+
has permeated al l walks of
life. Internet+Agriculture has
given birth to agriculture branding;
Internet+Finance promotes the devel-
opment of financial service platforms;
Internet+Medical fosters new medi-
cal community modes represented by
real-time interaction. It is safe to say
that the Internet has overturned many
traditional business modes, changed
distribution channels for products and
transformed consumer behavior funda-
mentally.
As a full service chain business in
Chinas commercial real estate sec-
tor, SPACE is playing a positive role
on the industrys frontier with innova-
tive visions and practices. Depending
on acute market insight and enriched
creative ideas, SPACE has continually
expanded its business in the Big Data
Era by artfully integrating the Internet
with its own resources. In addition to
business, it has extended into various
other fields such as culture, technol-
ogy and education, arming the Group
with inexhaustible vitality in the Inter-
net Age.
The Big Date Era has overturned
traditional business mode and also
brought many new opportunities, said
Alex Wong, President of SPACE. From
his perspective, as a result of the impact
of the Internets development and
e-business, the transformation of com-
mercial real estate has become a trend.
In project operation and promo-
tion, it is necessary to possess Internet
vision, explore optimization and update
marketing modes, realizing business
appreciation through value marketing,
he added.
In recent years, SPACE has been
conducting online-offline promotions
and operations to promote different
projects. In July this year, to prepare
for the Summer Carnival at Shang-
hai Touch Mall (Baoshan branch),
SPACE made use of the Intelligent
Digital Mall for a one-week directional
themed promotion, delivering messages
to millions of WeChat users and acquir-
ing hundreds of thousands of clicks. It
then made marketing plans according
to the collected big data and success-
fully met the demand of targeted group.
During 2015 CTXD World Music Festi-
val (Wuhan stop), SPACE carried out a
series of WeChat Shake Shakes activi-
ties on the spot, actively interacting with
participants and increasing the sales of
the mall.
I greatly stress the companys
advancement in the Internet and Inter-
net business applications, Alex Wong
said. SPACE has accumulated much
practical experience in this field and
has developed a diverse array of replica-
ble products which are accessible both
online and offline.
SPACE possesses many creative
brands including widely-applicable
business activity modes and theme
pavilions such as popupspace (ani-
mation exhibition and sales mode),
ecospace (education and sports experi-
ence pavilion), o2ospace (animation
theme pavilion), elecspace (automatic
vending and exchange system of ani-
mation products), and spacemirai.com
(online-offline electronic platform of
animation industry), etc.
These self-owned brands and
products of diverse forms cover dif-
ferent fields and demonstrate global-
ly advanced business visions, creat-
ing unique a character for different
projects.
Based on SPACE inherent resourc-
es, we launched o2ospace Mall, comb-
ing online and offline promotions to
help developers create competitive
and characteristic business programs.
We provide all-round services includ-
ing planning, investment attraction,
designing and operating management
to optimize project value increments for
developers, Alex Wong said, adding
that SPACE hopes to realize value incre-
ment optimization through transform-
ing the big data it collected into effective
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data that has guiding significance via
integration of online and offline media
promotions, application of Internet
technology and development of its own
electronic platform Spacemirai.com.
The key to commercial real estate
operations in the future will lie in expe-
rience and differentiation. It is neces-
sary to continue to explore the way to
create smart business projects that aim
at creation and are supported by sci-
ence and technology. We will cast our
eyes to a broader spectrum, not only the
animation field, but also the wellbeing
industry, which draws increasing atten-
tion, and education and sports online-
offline industrial platform, which own
large room for development, he said.
Surely, the real value of the Inter-
net rests in the combination of it with
traditional industry, which brings sub-
stantial changes to the latter. Mr. Alex
Wong says he keeps a close eye on the
development of Internet technology
and upcoming effects. He also con-
stantly looks for ways to combine the
Internet with other industries to realize
more breakthroughs and innovations,
and drive the integration and advance-
ment of Internet+culture, innovation,
science and technology and business
generally. (The article is offered by
SPACE)
spacemirai.com
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Historical perspective on Chinas property market
Very often, at
s ome r e c en t
social gather-
ings, friends of mine have
approached me and raises
questions about the prop-
erty market, expecting me
to revert with some insider opinion.
Instead of throwing back some casual
and off-the-cuff comments, I would
prefer to spend more time studying the
perspectives of history as it impacts on
their questions.
First of all, I will ask myself a ques-
tion: Is the China economy in the com-
ing two to three decades on the rise or
in decline? It is only worth investing in
a countrys property market if the over-
all economy is on the rise. China and
Japan, for example, are two countries
with economies going in opposite direc-
tions. For China, the economy has seen
continuous and steady growth since
Dengs visit to the south in the early
1990s; Japan has been on a deep-rooted
downtrend since the bubble burst in
the early 1990s and is sadly still lost.
Obviously, any time during this period,
the return from property investments
in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and
Shenzhen must have been lucrative.
Needless to say, the investment funds
would have vanished if we had made
the same move in Japan. It is always
easy to walk with the wind but not
against. As Jack Ma says: Pigs will fly
high when the wind is strong.
In the long history of China, with its
population size and economic poten-
tial, occupying 30% of global GDP is
normal and reasonable. The figure of
1-2% in the late Qing is abnormal in
any sense. The latest figure of 14% for
2014 means there is still huge room for
growth.
CULTURE MAP
Dr. Kenny C.Y. SIU
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HONG KONG its role and importance in the futureIf you have faith in the future of China,
you have to select your city to invest in.
Like the stock market, the most cur-
rently popular names are those like
Tencent (00700), Construction Bank
(00939), as opposed to HSBC (00005)
and SHK property (00016) in the past.
The same rule applies to the property
market - Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou,
Shenzhen and Hong Kong are on top
of the list. Counting back thousands of
years in history, it was Changan (now
Xian), Luoyang, Yangzhou, Nanjing.
Time is ruthless; those cities faded as
time passed and now rank as second-
tier. So goes HSBC and SHK Property
in the stock market game.
I was born in Hong Kong and
therefore have a special emotion tie
with the city, though still, I am sad-
dened to have to predict that in longer
run, Hong Kong will become a sec-
ond-tier city. When you scrutinize the
Hong Kong stocks and the Chinese-
based stock composition in overall
transactions, you will understand what
I am saying. Starting from the end of
2013, the daily stock transaction of
state-owned enterprises accounted for
more than 40 percent of HS futures,
and the figure is still on the rise. Some-
how, the importance of Hong Kong is
declining.
Yokohama, once the most prosper-
ous city during Japans times of seclu-
sion, was replaced by Tokyo and Osaka
once the nation was opened up. My
personal view is that Shanghai will one
day overtake Hong Kong and becom-
ing the center of Chinas stock trading
a role as important as New York in
United States. Hong Kong will become
a Chicago and take a second role.
Decades of Good Time leftGiven its excellent infrastructure and all
other advantages, Hong Kong, though
on the way down, can still enjoy some
decades of taking the leading role,
before stepping into the best of the
second-tiers.
No matter now or back in history,
a disparity between the rich and poor
is inevitable. Du Fu wrote, The poor
scholars will be cheered when they have
their mansions. The Book of Han says,
The fields owned by the rich cover
miles upon miles; the poor dont have a
place to live. It is an undisputable fact
that life in big cities must be expensive
and difficult.
With basic agreement that the China
economy is booming and once you have
your cities chosen, it is never an issue
about when to make the real purchase.
Changes in price within a 20-30 percent
range, for a real long-term capital invest-
ment that lasts for almost 20-30 years,
mean nothing, especially you are expect-
ing a yield at double, triple or even more.
Aim at the watermelon, not its seeds.
My humble advice to the younger
generation - if conditions allow, you
must have your own place to live. You
never know what runs faster - your sal-
ary growth or the property market. It is
a gamble if you do not have your own
place for shelter.
CULTURE MAP
Dr. Kenny C.Y. SIU
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(Jiangxi Uni. of Fin. and Econ.)
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FEATURE STORY
Shanghais go-to spots for the ultimate night out
Mortons of Chicago, The Steakhouse and Mortons Steak and Seafood Grille
As the holiday season is ushered in
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FEATURE STORY
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ECONOMY
David Bandurski is best known
for his work at the University
of Hong Kongs China Media
Project, where he breaks down develop-
ing trends in both state and commer-
cial publications. That makes his new
book following the struggles of a village
attempting to fend off the encroaching
city of Guangzhou a departure from his
typical wheelhouseabeit a welcome
one. China Economic Review recently
spoke to Bandurski about the decade-
long story behind his book, the unique-
ly Chinese phenomenon of urban vil-
lages and the difficulties faced by all
sides in Chinas ongoing drive toward
urbanization.
Ive seen plenty of books that concern Chinas urbanization, but few have gone into much detail about urban villages other than to address them at an abstract level in terms of hukou (registered residence) status and land rights categories. What prompted you to take on the topic at book length?Youre absolutely right, if you look
for info on urban villages in china
youll be taken to not actually practic-
ing urban planners, but urban plan-
ners in an academic setting, looking at
the issue of planning urban spaces in
an abstract way; youll find architects
writing about urban villages, and this
sort of thing. But I was very interested
when I discovered them for myself
back in early 2005. I was here in Hong
Kong and saw images of them [while]
watching a documentary on them
and started reading about them. The
term was new to me, chengzhongcun
(), literally villages within the
city.
The more I read, the more I thought,
wow, this is really fascinating these are
pockets of rural china in the middle
of Chinas biggest booming cities. And
theyre real rural spaces, so theyre very
unique, and as you said I hadnt really
seen a lot of writing about them and the
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social issues that sort of congregate in
these spaces.
So thats really what prompted it. I
thought I had foundand I still think
thissort of the secret ingredient of
Chinas urbanization. And what I mean
by that is: We know when we talk about
urbanization were referring to peo-
plehuman beingsmoving from
rural lives in rural settings to urban lives
in urban environments. Thats what
urbanization means. But of course in
China were always hearing about the
floating population, the migrant work-
ers in Chinas cities.
We know that by 2050 over a quarter
of a billion people will enter Chinas
cities, but will they become urban resi-
dents? Will they have hukou? Weve
heard some of the institutional and eco-
nomic aspects of this story of urbaniza-
tion and we have to ask, is this a real
urbanization? Are these people becom-
ing real urban residents? And the
answer, in a way, is no.
This is why we call them floating, its
a term in Chinese (). Theyre
floating because they never arrive in the
city, and by that I mean the city thats
built for them, [those] that the leaders
build as prestige cities. When we think
of Shanghai and Pudong, and we think
of Guangzhou and the central business
district, these urban spaces are not built
for the vast majority of people who are
really the whole phenomenon of urban-
ization in China. Where do they live?
The first answer is factory dorms.
But thats just a small portion of where
migrants live, because think about it:
Youre a migrant worker in your late
20s, and youre in a segregated dorm?
How are you going to get married, how
are you going to have children, how are
you going to have a sustainable life in
the city? You need a space, you need a
room within the city that is your own,
outside of the factory. And that is the
urban village. And theyre everywhere.
Theyre not just in Shenzhen or
Guangzhou. The Pearl River Delta has
a great number of them because of the
migrant waves, but [the urban village]
is really the answer to the question,
Where are they? And its one that, as
youve said, no ones really looked at
in-depth. So thats what really fasci-
nated me about the space of the urban
villages, and thats why I chose them as
places to report stories, rather than the
topicbecause Im not really focused
on the topic of urbanization per se, as
much as stories about land, etc. happen-
ing in the urban villages.
How did you end up settling on Xian Village as your narrative focal point?It was a long process because in the past
Ive done very topical books, like Inves-
tigative Journalism in China, where you
think of maybe eight or ten chapters
and you divide them up into stories
and issues. So I had a lot of stories I was
working on including about migrants,
and some of them are not in the book.
Most of the ones focused on migrant
workers in the villages did not become
the focus although I have those stories.
It was quite late in the process,
around 2011, 12 when I went back
and Xian Village had always been one
of my favorite urban villages to go and
eat in, and walk around and explore,
and I discovered to my surprise and
dismay that the village had been sur-
rounded by this huge containing wall.
It looked to me like this place was going
to be demolished in six months, so my
thought was: Lets write a history of a
disappearing village in the middle of
this city. You know, what an opportuni-
ty to go back and talk to the old villagers
about the history and the transforma-
tion and the disappearance of this place.
No one wanted to talk about history.
Everyone wanted to talk about corrup-
tion, land politics, and to the extent that
I could see history and culture it was
playing into the rights defense move-
ment, it was playing into the politics
of resistance. So the title of the book,
Dragons in Diamond Village, is a ref-
erence to the use of the dragon boat
parade, an ancient ritual in this area,
to gather resistance against the cor-
rupt village leaders. So the question of
whether the boats will return to the vil-
lagebecause they werent allowed to
raceis the question of where the story
is going in terms of land and corrup-
tion, heritage, everything.
So in that sense I have to say, I
defend my use of dragons in the title.
Mine is one of a very few over the last
decade that deserved dragons in the
title. Its a very local reference, its not
a colonialist appropriation of Chinese
symbology or something like that. The
symbolism is not mine, its the villag-
ers.
You mentioned how everything sort of came back to the corrup-tion, the land politics... to what extent does urban development and redevelopment still rely on official corruption? Your de-scription of the concentration of power in the hands of one village overlord in particular struck me as more than a little similar to the kind you see on a national scale.Its Identical. As I was investigating
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and this involves Poly Group of
course, which had a princeling running
itI had a sense that China is a vil-
lage. Theres a small group of officials,
princelings, call them what you will,
hongerdai, second-generation reds,
fuerdai, the sons and daughters of the
rich, and theyre a very small number of
people. In the same sense that a village
has two or three thousand members,
so does the extreme elite that actually
controls most of the wealth, much of it
invested in land, across China.
So its no accident that many of the
stories in my book... probably all of
them indirectly or actually quite direct-
ly, interests that are national. So you
have Poly Group which was up to 2010
run by the son-in-law of Deng Xiaop-
ing, so thats about as senior as they get,
theyre very involved in a lot of projects
in Guangzhou, and theyre the ones
wholl redevelop the village. And its still
in the air, whats going to happen...
And certainly I was really interested
in looking at corruption at the local
level as well. Xi Jinping has talked about
tigers and flies, and I think the issue of
the flies, of smaller corruption, is much
more key to political stability and the
success of anti-corruption, etc., because
the corrpution of these low-level offi-
cialsvillage and county officials
affect Chinese on a much more direct
level than say, Zhou Yongkang or Bo
Xilai, these kinds of cases.
And in my experiences reporting this
book and going back now, very little
is being done. Villagers are facing the
same situation now that they were three
years ago, four years ago when I was in
the thick of it. Theres still no account-
ability for village officials, and they have
basically a blank check to do these land
dealsand theyre working with district
officials and city officials.
From your descriptions of Guangzhous urban villages they sounded a little taller, if not dens-er, than the ones Id seen walking around inside Beijings Third Ring Road. I know your book is centered on the Pearl River Delta, but I was wondering if youd no-ticed regional differences in how urban villages form.Absolutely. I was also in Zhengzhou,
and Changsha was anotherin Chang-
sha I found the urban villages quite
similar [to those of Guangzhou], and of
course were in the South still. A lot of it
has to do with the economies in various
areas. Of course the Pearl River Delta
was developing earlier: Its relying very
much on manufacturing, even having a
lot of small sweat shop operations that
are on village land. So these villages are
not just residential. They have collective
properties - so they might have shoe
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factories, or parts factories, that kind of
thing - where theyre attracting laborers
who are living in the tenement housing,
but theyre also working nearby.
What you see in Beijing, youre abso-
lutely right, you tend to have a lot of
Henan migrants who are doing, for
example, recycling. So these spaces, the
zhaijidi or residential areas are
also used as warehousing areas. I spent
a lot of time in a village called Trash
Village, Lajicun , up in an area
called Dongxiaokou . And these
were all Henan migrants, they were liv-
ing there in little hovels, but they were
one-story, and they were using land
next-door, renting it out to store wiring
(theyd strip the copper out) or plas-
tics, and they would basically run recy-
cling enterprises. They can still be quite
dense, so you can still have twenty, thir-
ty thousand migrants living in a small
village, but theyre not as built-up as the
villages in the South.
But you see this dynamic absolute-
ly everywhere. I think it doesnt really
matter where you are: On the outskirts
of the city, sometimes closer in to the
main development area, youll see these
rural spaces that are being used to sup-
port a grey economy, and its a mat-
ter of what kind of economic activity
youre looking at... Sometimes you have
to be creative and know where to look
for them. Theyre actually hiding, often
behind new, prestige architecture and
that sort of thing.
So what determines the resilience or vulnerability of an urban village? Why do some hold out longer than others?In the case of Guangzhou, for example,
some of the major factors are the vil-
lagers themselves and how united they
areso if they have a strong sense of
community, if the leadership is more
collective. In some cases they dont real-
ly have the emergence of a dictator, if
you will; in the case of Xian village it
has a sort of local tyrant, and you see
this in a lot of villages where they have
immense power and develop these con-
nections with other local leaders. But
if villagers stick together they have a
better opportunity to resist the regen-
eration plans of the city or to make their
own demands about how the process is
done.
And you have villages like Shipai
, very close to Xian village in
Guangzhou, which is untouched and
will probably remain untouched for
the foreseeable future because its in
a major urban area and if they try to
move on the village it will get nasty.
And this is the thing, Chinese leaders
very risk averse and so the villagers, if
theyre doing rights defense they know
thiswell every rights defender knows
this, right? Its a tactic: you make lots
of noise, you attract a lot of atten-
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tion, and [leaders] tend to be more
cautious in dealing with you, and they
might negotiate with you. You see this
again and again in my book, this tactic
of rights defense.
So that really decides it, and in some
areas the governments may be more
aggressive in dealing with land seizure,
because again theyre not under so
much scrutiny as you would be in a
major city. Its a real problem [for lead-
ers] in a city like Guangzhou, or Beijing,
you have a concentration of media as
well in these areas. So its mostly about
scrutiny and the local community and
how united they are.
A little over a year ago CER looked into the State Councils announcement that it was going to abolish the rural-urban dis-tinction for hukou. Has that had much effect at all for the people youve been talking to? I think the problem is a really difficult
issue, and I think with China having
dealt with the one-child policy now,
down the road I think the hukou sys-
tem is going to be something theyll
have to deal with. But in many ways
were past the point where changing
hukou status will mean a areal sub-
stantive change for peoples lives
because they need to have programs to
actually provide the infrastructure, for
example, for social programs, whether
its healthcare, or educationand a
lot of things are being provided in the
cities informally, and again, in urban
villages.
When I was in Beijing I was report-
ing on migrant schools, and migrant
schoolsillegal schools run by
migrants, for migrantsare concen-
trated in the urban villages. So if you
go to Dongxiaokou where I was, thats
where youll find them.
So you have to provide the servic-
es for the people that are in the cities,
and the cities dont want to do this on
their own. Theyre waiting for some-
one else to jump first. Its a real prob-
lem. Because you look at an area like
[the one] outside Shenzhen, and you
have hundreds of thousands of work-
ers, many of them living in villages,
not factory dorms. And if you consid-
er their interests - if they were voters,
for example - they would want to have
their children there, and they would say:
We need more schools, we need more
classrooms, we need more teachers.
But [migrants] are not calculated in the
local mathematics for social benefits.
The schools that are built locally are for
local residents with hukou.
So really you can talk about chang-
ing an ID card, but really the big
question is about social benefits.... Li
Keqiang, the premier - although hes
saying it less now, I think its too dif-
ficult an issue - but hes talked about
human urbanization. This is the new
term, and this is an acknowledgement
that urbanization over the last two dec-
ades has focused on urban develop-
ment, building physical cities, and its
ignored, more or less, the human beings
that are really what urbanization is all
about.
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And this has to change. You have to
have urban environments that take into
account the urban population. So we
know theyre thinking about this and
they recognize that theres a real schism,
but solving it is going to be really dif-
ficult. Im not the policy guy on hukou,
and I wouldnt want to be. Its a night-
mare.
Another issue is going to be local
identity. In my book Im focus-
ing on the local-ruralIm focusing
on the villagers whose homes are in
Guangzhou, whose villages have been
there for a thousand years, who see
themselves as the real locals; and I dont
really look at the migrants so much.
But theres always a little bit of fric-
tion between these two worlds in the
cities. So the local villagers see them-
selves as one caste in a way; and then
the migrant workers are just kind of
coming through and theyre not really
local and theyre not really accepted;
and then you have the urban residents
with hukou. So theres going to be a
lot of resistance when they start to talk
about specific changes, and maybe a lot
of resentment too against the migrant
population.
That seems to track with what wed concluded in the piece, though its not exactly the kind of confirmation youre overjoyed to get.Then another issue is going to be hous-
ingand Im kind of posing another
question for you here because I saw
recently you guys had written about
the residential property glut, and the
figures for residential housing, which is
a really interesting issue. But Ive always
been fascinated by the fact that theres
essentially two markets in China, and
the urban village is a separate grey real
estate market, and the one that has been
fulfilling this demand represented by
migrant workers in the city.
What we call the housing market in
China in most cases is not even a real
hosuing market. It is so far over the
heads of the new urbanites, the migrant
workers that its hopeless! And so you
think: How are they going to deal with
this? Is the formal real estate market
going to correct to take into account
the grey market, in which case wed see
a dramatic drop in prices; or are they
going to try to get through this period
with subsidized low-income housing?
Right now theres talk about low-
income housing, but think about Shen-
zhen! Its hard to get hard statistics, but
if you have a city with say 12 milllion
people, and you have 2 million who
have urban hukou and probably own
real estate, and then you have anoth-
er 10 million who are various kinds
of migrants, some may have college
degrees, some may not, etc.but you
could be talking four or five million
people who are living (and this is prob-
ably conservative) in an urban village
environment. Theyre living in gray
housing economy.
If you were to build low-income
housing for those five million peo-
ple, can you imagine how much that
would cost? And how much room it
would take? I mean Hong Kong is talk-
ing about building some more of this
housing over the next ten years, and
its a total headache. Its nothing close
to [Shenzhen]... So I think about this
problem and, as I say in the intro: Are
you going to build a new Singapore to
house this population?
So how to house urban China is a
real problem, but we kind of ignore it in
the economics. They get very simplistic.
Youll hear a banker say, Well Chinas
got 250 million new people going to the
cities in the next half-century, theres
unlimited demand into the future for
housing. And the basic math sounds
right, but the problem is that the real
estate prices already are so high that in
many cases a migrant worker is talk-
ing about 200 years of gross income to
even afford an apartment of any size
on the outskirts of the city. So I think
this is a big issue for the long term for
the cities, and this is why theyre push-
ing reverse migration, theyre hoping
they can get cities in inland China
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to develop, and the maybe some of
the migrant populations will move back
into these areas. So thats been another
sort of push.
Having looked into that a bit, it didnt seem to me as if the if you build it they will come model was actually drawing a lot of people away from the coast.No, and that was my experience going
to Henan. The people would say Ok,
but the jobs are in Beijing, the opportu-
nities are in