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Bright
"Rejoice,therefore,that a handsome and pure boy will be
bestowed on thee,thou wilt receive a bright youth who will be of
thy seed and will be of thy progeny."(Tadhkirah-p,85-The
London Mosque 1976)
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Care taker
This is a letter from Mirza Imran Ahsan from Sydney Australia:
Mr. Abdul Ghaffar Junba, Asslam o alaikum I am surprised to read your views
in your book and the letters you wrote to Hazrat Khalifatul Masih IV publisehed
in your www.alghulam.com. Unfortunately I also consider your dreams and
messages as WASAAWIS as Hazoor did. You are terribly mistaken.You
should better read The Holy Quran carefully. Read Sura-e-Aal-e-Imran verse
39-40. There is no doubt that the word GHULAM is used for a son nothing
other than that. It is Sunat-Allah that He promises His prophets with SALEH
pious progeny (AULAAD). So did He promised Hazrat Masih Maud AS.
Ghulam is nothing but son of Hazrat Masih Maud AS. There is no IJTEHAADI
GHALATI, if there is then verse 40 of Aal-e-Imran is also Allah's Ijtehaadi
Ghalati, Naauzobillah. Hazrat Masih Maud AS based his views and
philosophies and understanding of his ILH AMAAT all on The Holy Quran, so
was this prophecy about Musleh Maud. I will be more inclined to believe the
dreams, KASHOOF and ILHAAMAT of Hazrat Khalifa II (Musleh Maud) who
claimed later in 1940s that he is Musleh Maud as promised to Hazrat Masih
Maud than yours.
His pious life is in front of me as historical evidence and I see repeated signs of
God's will and support for him. Otherwise believing in you means that I have
doubts about the verses of Quran. Naauzobillah, Allah did a mistake in
equating "Ghulam" to "son" in verse 40 of Sura-e-Aal-e-Imran. You better
reconsider all your philosophy and join Jamaat Ahmadiyya in its real spirit.
Although Ghulam can be anyone. But a promised Ghulam was Hazrat Mirza
Bashiruddin Mahmood Ahmad Al-Musleh Maud RA.
If you consider Khalifatul Masih as "Yaa Syed" then you should better remain in
the fold of ATAA'AT (obedience). If you have some doubts about Ghulam or
Musleh Maud, then keep them with yourself. Because I consider you seriously
confused in this matter.
I hope and pray that Allah may give you sense and understanding to stop any
more of such discussions. Also pray yourself and also request the Khalifatul
Masih for prayers.
You did not tell anything that what Services you did as being Musleh and
Ghulam ? Did you do any single service in the way Islam. If you did, let me
know about that. Better join as a humble servant and work for Ahmadiyyat, the
true Islam, and save the humanity from suffering and chaos rather than
creating FITNA within the fold of Ahmadiyyat.
Wassalam,
MIRZA IMRAN AHSAN
brain washing
This is a letter from an anonym person:
SALAM, By the way how can we accept you? Should we do a BAAIT? ,,, and
leave the Khalifa-e-waqt. It is very contradicting claim with the normal
reasoning of Ahmadi beliefs. If you are an appointed divine from God than why
is someone else heading the Jamaat. The dreams you wrote and your Nazm
can possibly be right and from God but in my opinion you misunderstood the
message from God. You also wrongly understood some of the poems from
Khalifa IV RA.He denied such beliefs in response to your letters. He was not
expecting any promised Ghulam and Musleh Maud in present age. You wrote
that you took queue/hint from his different ASHAAR, If he denied such
representation of ideas in those ASHAAR than I believe you surely are wrong
in quoting Promised Messiah and also from Holy Quran. Every other Ahmadi
daims that he / she has seen several dreams, day time images and words of
God, thus you are not alone. It is a repeated phenomena in Ahmadi families to
see righteous dreams and I believe that God has done the same with you but
you misunderstood and continued to misunderstand. You are also against the
NIZAAM, System, but as I have the understanding, it is a plant sown by God
himslef. Khilafat is also sown by God which has become a strong tree now. If
you are God's appointed person than what is Khalifa's authority and what is
your authority, where is the dividing line? There will be conflict.Should Khalifa
consult you on all matters or what? If you are not NABI than there is no
Obligation to belive in you.Do you claim to be a NABI? If you are a NABI than
lets see what message you brought other than
1.You are Ghulam and Musleh Maud
2.NIZAAM is bad and stoppinq freedom of speech.
I am failed to get anyother point or divine message than these 2. What
message you brought? like other prophets did. Hazrat Masih Maud AS wrote
over 70 books and challenged the religious world by showing the beauty of
Islam, Are you going to follow him? Anyway all the best with your life. You have
started an interesting discussion where unfortunately you have to face ridicule.
But for such a tall claim you should have strong reasons. You should also
prove yourself. Even if you are right in pointing out some misjudgments to
Promised Messiahs prophecies by later KHALIFAS, the burden of proof is on
you. How can your truth be judged by mere fact that in your opinion Khalifa II
and others misunderstood about Musleh Maud's prophecy. This doesn't mean
in any case that you become automatically Musleh Maud. Prove your truth as
well.
Message
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Inductive method Universal definition
"Socrates believed that a man cannot act rightly, unless he first knows
what is right, unless, in fact, he knows the concept of right."( A critical
History of Greek Philosophy by W.T. Stace-P,147)
"SOCRATES.I can't help that. We will talk to him some other time. If
all we have said in this discussion, and the questions we have asked,
have been right, virtue will be acquired neither by nature nor by
teaching. Whoever has it gets it by divine dispensation without taking
thought, unless he be the kind of statesman who can create another
like himself. Should there be such a man, he would be among the
living practically what Homer said Tiresias was among the dead, when
he described him as the only one in the underworld who kept his wits -
'the others are mere flitting shades'. Where virtue is concerned such a
man would be just like that, a solid reality among the shadows.
MENO. That is finely put, Socrates.
SOCRATES. On our present reasoning then, whoever has virtue gets
it by divine dispensation. But we shall not understand the truth of the
matter until, before asking how men get virtue, we try to discover
what virtue is in and by itself."
(Protagoras and Meno translated by W.K.C. Guthrie P.156-157)
Homer
Tiresias
"But as, for Socrates, the sole condition of Virtue is knowledge, and as
knowledge is just what can be imparted by teaching, it followed that
virtue must be teachable. The only difficult is to find the teacher, to
find someone who knows the concept of virtue. What the concept of
virtue is that is, thought Socrates, the precious piece of knowledge,
which no philosopher has ever discovered and which, if it were only
discovered, could at once be imparted by teaching, where upon men
would at once become virtuous."
(A critical History of Greek Philosophy by W.T. Stace -P,149 )
concepts
Isaac Newton/1643-1727
L a w o f
Char les Grav i ta t i o na l Fo rce
Darwin/1809-1882
Theory of Evolution
"His method of forming concepts was by induction. He would take
common examples of actions which are universally admitted to be
prudent, and would attempt to find the quality which they all have in
common, and by virtue of which they are all classed together, and so
form the concept of prudence.Then he would bring up fresh examples,
and see whether they agreed with the concept so formed. If not, the
concept might have to be corrected in the light of the new examples."
(A critical History of Greek Philosophy by W.T. Stace-P,146)
Prudent
Prudence
Objective
Object
cause Object
objecting writting or cause of writting
objective reading
object action
object
predicates independent
object
Virtue is Knowledge
objective
"So that, in spite of the fact that his whole principle lay in the method
of definitions, Socrates, in fact, left his followers without any
definition of the supreme concept of his philosophy, virtue. It was
upon this point, therefore that the followers of Socrates disagreed.
They all agreed that virtue is the sole end of life, but they developed
different ideas as to what sort of life is in fact virtuous."
(A critical History of Greek Philosophy" by W.T. Stace-P,158)
Supreme Ultimate Universal
Truth
Albert Einstein/1879-1955
The The Manifest The Last The First
Latent
Independent
universal
Omnipresent universality
Omnipotent
u n m i x e d
Independent
mind
unaided reason
non-sensory sensory
mechanical
post-elementary
The First
action motion
The Last
object
objective actions
phenominal times
The Latent The Manifest
phenominal spaces
unmoved mover
Re v i e w o f
Religions
Turning point
electoral college
dictators
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